Regarding a Section for Submarine Disasters.

[ScotsmanlovesCorinne]

I just have a quick question - Is there a section of this forum devoted to submariners who have lost their lives - whether in war or in peacetime after all even when not involved in a war they are still considered war vessels.

There have been many that have sank - both during the wars and in peacetime exercises. Is there a special place to post information or learn more about these men who are "eternally on patrol.'

Brian

[qprdave]

Have you done a search for submarines that have sunk?

I know that there are a few here in this forum.

qprdave

[ScotsmanlovesCorinne]

Thank you Dave (I hope you don't mind me being informal)

I've run out of free time at the moment, so the only sub I've researched from my wife's notes was the F-4 which sank off the coast of Honolulu Hawaii in 1915.

However, on her list, obviously she had the USS Thresher and USS Scorpion and USS Squalus, but she also had several subs that I am not aware of. One collided with a vessel - the City of Rome - another collided with a Coast Guard Cutter the Paulding - two were destroyed when their torpedoes came back at them. And these are just the ones destroyed in peace time. (Don't worry I am not forgetting the Dakar; Kursk; or HMS Thetis.

Definitely lot's to look up

Brian

[steve roberts]

Hi Brian.There are a lot of submarine sinking's mentioned in Corrines thread re Naval Disasters,but I think if the moderators agree,there is a place for such Sinkings in it's own thread.After all we have several threads on submarines in general.So,go ahead and ask,there are numerous submariners on the forum to give you answers or arguments!!.
Many Many Regards Steve.

[Dreadnought]

Hi Steve, and to you too Brian,

I am not sure a separate thread for submarine sinkings achieves very much, and could open the possibility of duplication. The sinking of a submarine, or any other vessel is just one part of it's career, in the same way as it's launch.

I apprecaite that there has been a enormous loss of life during the 100 years or more of submarine history, but I think the best tribute to those who died during their exploits, is for threads to remain as a complete history, the celebrations of the boat's achievemnets alongside the mourning for those brave souls who have perished.

[steve roberts]

Hi Clive.I agree with your comment.Perhaps we should leave it in 'Naval disasters that have touched you most' originally opened by Corrine?
Many Many Regards Steve.

[Dreadnought]

I think that is appropriate Steve; It personalises those particular disasters that people have some affinity to for whatever reason.

Cheers

[paulshrimp]

i am trying to find a crew list of the mi submarine which was sunk while on exercise in the english channel my mothers brother was crew member at the time. i would be very greatfull for any information on or how to acheive this .

[Rob Hoole]

i am trying to find a crew list of the mi submarine which was sunk while on exercise in the english channel my mothers brother was crew member at the time. i would be very greatfull for any information on or how to acheive this .

See qprdave's Post #155 (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showpost.php?p=103500&postcount=155) in Royal Navy Ships and Crews/Crew Losses thread.

[paulshrimp]

Many thanks for your assistance and links.

Very gratefully recieved.

Kind regards,

Paul Shrimpton

[ScotsmanlovesCorinne]

I can see what you are saying is right. But does this also include submarines that were not involved in war when they sank. A number were on sea trials when they went down. Some even being struck by their own torpedoes. Are these also considered naval disasters? If so I have lots of questions to ask. Although they won't come all at the same time because of the hours I am working.

Sincerely, Brian

[steve roberts]

Hi Brian.I can see what the Moderators are saying about possible duplication.If you have any specific questions about submarine disasters,you can always PM me or e-mail me.I promise I will do my best to answer them fully for you.
Many Many Regards Steve.

[ScotsmanlovesCorinne]

Thanks

Can anyone provide information regarding the sinking of submarine USS Tang? This is the next one I am working on. Also 09-(SS-70), which apparently foundered during deep submergence tests of Connecticut?

Also the S-6 (SS-131) which sank after a collision USS-PC 460 in the Gulf of Panama. R-12(SS-89) which foundered after battery flooded while of Key West. USS Tullibee - (SS-284) Accidentally sunk by a circular run of its own torpedo off Palau Islands. S-28 (SS-133) lost during ASW exercises off the Hawaiian Islands. USS Seawolf – (SS-197) – Accidentally sunk by naval aircraft from USS Midway (CVE-63) and USS Rowell (DE-403) off Morotai Island – October 3, 1944. S4 (SS-109) – Rammed off Provincetown, Massachusetts, by Coast Guard Cutter, Paulding. Later salvaged. – December 17, 1927.

And these are just the ones that sank in peace-time. There are hundreds out there that went down in war-times. Enough research to last a lifetime.

Like my beautiful wife would say - Until the sea shall free them - please don't ever let them be forgotten.

Brian