Polish River Flotilla

[dorupantos]

The Polish Navy had a large river-flotilla before and during WW2 not only sea-going ships ! Polish Navy includes a large flotilla of river-monitors and other smaller ships .

[dorupantos]

Here are some pics of Polish Navy river-monitors .

[berry]

Dorupantos- great pictures of lesser known,though fascinating monitors.Particularly the 'cracow' -do you have any details re her,tonnage,armament etc.
best regards
Sid

[crolick]

Dorupantos- great pictures of lesser known,though fascinating monitors.Particularly the 'cracow' -do you have any details re her,tonnage,armament etc.
best regards
Sidhttp://www.rzeczna2004.republika.pl/krakow.html

Although this is in Polish I think that with Google Translate it will be understandable :)


Cheers,
Andrzej

[berry]

Many thanks for that,good stuff,
regards
Sid

[dorupantos]

Polish Navy monitor Krakow .

[dorupantos]

I also have a perplexity and I hope some of my Polish friends make me understand . What are that things both sides of monitor Warshaw ? They are platform for infantry or protection against mines ?

[Czehooo]

http://fow.aplus.pl/album/albums/userpics/10042/thumb_T-1.JPG
This is a minesweeper, river-type T-1 was built in the 30s

[dorupantos]

Dear CZEHOOO ,
You make me curious . What's this ?
Best regards !

[Marek T]

I also have a perplexity and I hope some of my Polish friends make me understand . What are that things both sides of monitor Warshaw ? They are platform for infantry or protection against mines ?
They are removable tanks fitted when the monitors were expected to operate in very shallow waters. The monitors had draught of 0,8 m, while with those tanks the draught was 0,6 m.

[crolick]

What are that things both sides of monitor Warshaw ?Those are floats which were due to decrease the draught.

BTW. It was WARSZAWA not Warhsaw!


Hope it helps!
Andrzej

[John Odom]

Most interesting warships!

[patroclus]

Interesting coverage of an aspect of naval activity that we do not see much about. Thank you.

[dorupantos]

Dear Marek T and Crolick ,
Many thanks both of you !

[Czehooo]

http://fow.aplus.pl/album/albums/userpics/10042/thumb_T-1.JPG
This is a minesweeper, river-type T-1 was built in the 30s
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/3c77e8c34724859d.html

[Czehooo]

link for ship river
http://flotylle.rzeczne.ayz.pl/page-21.html

[Hank]

Interesting to note the use of side-wheel paddles for propulsion on some of the Polish river vessels. Good for shallow water operation.

The extra decking on some of the vessels might be working-decks for transfer of men and material to smaller vessels.

What engines did the Polish river fleet use?

I do not read the Polish language. Are there any documents of operations on the rivers in English? My ancestors used the Mississippi, Cumberland, Tennessee and Red Rivers here for operations during the U.S. Civil War. What waters were important for Poland?

Most interesting, Thank You.

[SCPO (ret)]

I'm a retired U.S. Navy minesweep sailor and I am begining to build a model of the T1 river minesweeper. I appreciate the information provided in this forum. Are there pictures of T! available? I have searched the internet but have been unable to find any. Also, I would be interested in knowing how the river minesweepers rigged their sweeps. I see two J-bar davits in the illustration, which would be used to rig the equipment outboard, and 4 cylindrical objects that might be sweep floats or paravanes for the sweep. But I do not see a winch or drum for a sweep wire. I'd appreciate any info that the group could provide.

R/
Matt

[crolick]

http://www.mikromodele.fora.pl/morskie,43/polski-tralowiec-rzeczny-t-1,846.html
http://www.koga.net.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=523&t=36824

Use Google Translate :)


Hope it helps!
Andrzej

[Hank]

Thanks for the links to the T-1 information, Crolick. I'd still be interested in what powerplants (engines) were used. Regards

[Czehooo]

http://images39.fotosik.pl/812/f5e1bd3561d62caam.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/f5e1bd3561d62caa.html)
http://images43.fotosik.pl/818/dd120a2123eb7ccfm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/dd120a2123eb7ccf.html)
http://images50.fotosik.pl/819/5143629346278f1am.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/5143629346278f1a.html)
Plan which was released in writing Modelarz
Two variants of the painting T-1

[Old Seaman]

Hi there,

Here is a link about Polish river monitor "Krakow", sorry in Russian, but the pictures are great.

http://samlib.ru/t/tonina_o_i/monitor-smolensk.shtml

Regards,
Serge

[crolick]

Thanks for the links to the T-1 information, Crolick. I'd still be interested in what powerplants (engines) were used. Regards
As far as I know Praha (20 HP) but I'm not sure whether this is true.


Regards,
Andrzej

[Old Seaman]

Hi Andrzej,

I was trying to locate some info re Polish Pinsk river Flotilla but noticed that the link http://www.rzeczna2004.republika.pl is not valid any more. Therefore I recommend you to see the page in Russian: http://www.moremhod.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=105+++&Itemid=29
Hope you do not need Google translation :)
there you will find the full composition of the Flotilla, including HQ staff and base structure.

Regards,
Serge.

[Vovan]

Here is a link about Polish river monitor "Krakow"

Here still a picture

http://i036.radikal.ru/1104/d0/1cd8b847511ft.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i036.radikal.ru/1104/d0/1cd8b847511f.jpg.html)

http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/1104/5b/6a982098fe99t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i152/1104/5b/6a982098fe99.jpg.html)

[crolick]

I was trying to locate some info re Polish Pinsk river Flotilla but noticed that the link http://www.rzeczna2004.republika.pl is not valid any more.Look here: http://flotylle.rzeczne.ayz.pl/
:)

[CGRET]

It's an interesting side note here that they built this river monitors with a low profile form as did the early monitors of the US Civil War types. Amazing how the design that was proven many years before has survived the years.

Regards
Charles