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Old Seaman
06-05-2010, 05:39
We are approaching the 65 aniversary of the WWII ending. For us in Russia the Victory Day is a great Holiday. I want to start this thread with less known ships - river ironclads. "Zheleznyakov" was one of them. Today she stands in Kiev, Ukrain as a monument.

steve roberts
06-05-2010, 20:45
Hi Serge.Thank you for posting those pictures.There must be a lot of WW2 Russian ships we have not heard of over here.I hope you can follow up with some more,and follow the aims of the forum,in educating us and recording little known history.
Many Regards Steve.

designeraccd
06-05-2010, 22:30
These river monitors were a class of 6, but only the preserved Zheleznyakov survived. Built 1934-39. They were supposed to do a thrifty 7.6 knots and carried 2-4", 4-45mm and 4mg....per Conway's. DFO :D

tim lewin
07-05-2010, 04:49
There is a Pacific Fleet submarine preserved in Vladivostok, out of the water which i visited in 1993 and seemed to be in good order. I cannot remember if it was a Russian built boat or a donated one from other forces.
tim

designeraccd
07-05-2010, 08:48
It is a Soviet built boat, fairly small. S-56, IIRC. Apparently 27 units were completed, NATO called them S class, internally they were Project IX-bis. 866.1/1107.8 tons. 6-533mm TT: 4 bow, 2 stern + 1-100mm deck gun and a 45mm on sail. 4 units transferred to the chicoms in 1954. DFO ;)

Marek T
09-05-2010, 15:39
The S-class were designed by German-run company IvS, based in Netherlands.
Both Soviet S-class and German IA class were development of E-1 submarine built to InV design in Spain (later sold to Turkey as GUR). The E-1 herself was based on G-class design, prepared by German Navy during WW1 as replacement for UB-III boats.
To make it short: S-class externally were very similar to German VII class U-boats.
The latter were development of IA class.

designeraccd
09-05-2010, 18:28
All very true and in one of my books; just didn't feel like typing all that!!! BTW the S-56 + some sisters sailed @ halfway around the world, via Panama Canal to get to Vladivostock; which the Soviets considered quite an ACCOMPLISHMENT!

Of course USN sub's essentially did the same constantly to deploy and fight in Japanese controlled waters from US East coast or the Fleet Boats that were built in Manitowac, Wisconsin...on Lake Michigan. :eek: DFO :D