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The Sailor
31-12-2007, 21:41
FEAR NOTHING

As Stan pointed out in my other thread about the "Live Bait Squadron", it was HMS Dreadnought that put an end to Otto Weddigen and U-9 by ramming it in March 1915.

The sixth HMS Dreadnought of the Royal Navy was a revolutionary battleship which entered service in 1906 and it's introduction helped spark off a major naval arms race as navies around the world rushed to match her, particularly the German navy in the build up to World War I.
Dreadnought was the first battleship of her era to have a uniform main battery, rather than having a few large guns complemented by a heavy secondary battery of somewhat smaller guns. She was also the first capital ship to be powered by steam turbines, making her the fastest battleship in the world at the time of her completion.

With a unique configeration of ten 12inch, she could fire an eight gun broadside.
Also the new design called for the main armament to be the same calibre of gun.
With multi calibre ship's guns, each calibre of gun had different ballistic properties, which greatly complicated gunnery, especially when watching for splashes. Either the smaller-caliber guns would have to hold fire to wait for the slower-firing heavies, losing the advantage of their faster rate of fire, or it would be uncertain whether a splash was due to a heavy or a light gun, making ranging and aiming unreliable.

The once-revolutionary warship was sold for scrapping by just 1922.


Enclosed is a pic of a fine model cleanly showing the artillery configeration. The old black and whites made it hard to see anything, even in this fine photo of the day.

herakles
08-02-2008, 22:42
There's no doubt the arms race that developed when this great ship appeared.

Incidentally, my grandfather built most of them.

The Sailor
08-02-2008, 22:45
Where was that Herk. Tell us about it.

American development
Influenced by William S. Sims, Americans also worked on an all-big gun design around the same time as Dreadnought: USS South Carolina and USS Michigan were presented to Congress in 1904. The Americans moved slowly. The ships were not authorised until the spring of 1905 and not laid down until the autumn of 1906, after Dreadnought. The South Carolina class carried all of their main guns on the centre line, avoiding the wing turrets favoured by the British. Unlike Dreadnought, they used triple-expansion machinery, not the latest and much more powerful steam turbines developed on Tyne side, in England, by Charles Algernon Parsons a few years before.

Those cage masts were the ugliest feature on any warship in history. It was sure a great day when then they changed to tripod masts

herakles
08-02-2008, 23:00
Not much to tell Sailor. He was the navy's chief architect. Based at Portsmouth.

He also built the first floating dock.

I did have an ancestor that captained one of the wheat clippers on the Australia run! Now there's a story! I might just put something together on them.

Harley
09-02-2008, 09:12
Not much to tell??

It depends what he was; Director of Naval Construction (or Assistant D.N.C.s or a Chief Constructor) or Engineer-in-Chief of the Royal Navy.

The great Constructors who pop to mind here are Watts, Gard and Narbeth. Do tell more Herakles, if you don't mind!

Harley

herakles
09-02-2008, 10:28
I'll see what I can dig up. It's a long time ago! And I don't have anything here in Thailand.

I have several photos of Countess someoneorother breaking champagne with grandfather standing beside her with a silly grin.

I also have a magnificent hand carved chest presented to him after the launching of one of them. Filled with artefacts from the launching.

qprdave
30-04-2010, 13:43
Launching of HMS Dreadnought

Reported in The Times on 12th February 1906

astraltrader
30-04-2010, 15:53
There are plenty of pictures of Dreadnought scattered throughout the forum but here I have to show firstly an old postcard taken of her launch then three old glass slides of her during actual construction.

qprdave
30-04-2010, 16:06
Great pictures Terry. especially the glass plates. The misty look gives them so much atmosphere

Dave

kronserg
30-04-2010, 16:30
Slightly earlier:

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daviddb
30-04-2010, 16:34
Really enjoy these old dockyard photographs. So much tempting detail in the foreground ( and background) to pore over....

regards

daviddb

qprdave
30-04-2010, 16:47
I agree david

We, in this forum are certainly privileged to have people like Terry and Alan here who are only too happy to share their personal photographs that we, more than likely, will never see anywhere else.

They require a big thank you from everyone who belongs to this forum and all those, in the future, who will get access to this great forum.

Dave

Dave Hutson
30-04-2010, 16:55
Every photo or glass plate a winner.

Pity we didn't have Digital HD in those days - perhaps we need a time machine. Those glass plates would have been fantastic in HD.

Thanks Terry - he always delivers.

Dave H

astraltrader
30-04-2010, 17:16
Thanks guys and thanks to Krons for his picture as well - it predates mine and is most welcome!

Johannus
27-03-2012, 09:34
I found this picture of HMS Dreadnought after launching, in a French magazine of 1906. Hope you like it.
and how about the paddlewheel steamer!

TCC
27-03-2012, 11:07
Where was that Herk. Tell us about it.

American development
Influenced by William S. Sims, Americans also worked on an all-big gun design around the same time as Dreadnought: USS South Carolina and USS Michigan were presented to Congress in 1904. The Americans moved slowly.

There was a few countries planning, building or talking about a ship with a 'all big gun' design. Italians started this ball rolling and I think the Japanese where the first to put their ship in the water. However, their problem was big gun manufacture and they couldn't make enough 12in thus several turrets of their 'all big gun' ship had 10in? guns.

This 'all big gun' ship idea was floating around in naval circles, the British just out-paced everyone in construction time with a workman-like design with a few new innovations.