Bermagui Mystery - seeking son of Lamont Young

[ssmith2]

Seeking hard to find records on Charles L.L Young. Two months before outbreak of WW1 he was in Sydney on S.S Clan Macrae (bound for Melbourne then Fremantle then who knows)- letter signed Lt Charles Young (retired), 2 June 1914. Sixteen years later he resided in Silverstream, Wellington N.Z:signed letter Jan 1930 as Commander C.L.L Young R.N of N.Z. Information he provides in a letter indicates he was on HMS Irresistible when she went down 18 March 1915. Parents Lamont (disapeared 1880) and Dora Young. Charles had 3 sons. Any information greatly appreaciated. cheers, Smithy

[ssmith2]

Found him!!! - with a great deal of assistance from Navy List Research. Still need infor for after 1918 - probably NZ infor??

Navy List Research on Lieutenant-Commander Charles Lind Lamont Young Royal Navy
1893 Not listed
1896 Midshipman 15/4/1895 HMS HOOD Battleship Mediterranean from 17/8/1894 under Captain Charles C Drury
1898 Midshipman 15/4/1895HMS ROYAL ARTHUR Cruiser Australia from 7/10/1896 under Rear Admiral Hugo L Pearson
1902 Lieutenant 30/6/1901 HMS PROMETHEUS Cruiser of the Channel Squadron 28/8/1901 under Commander Frederick C T Tudor
1905 ditto rank HMS KATOOMBA Cruiser for Protection of Floating Trade in Australasian Waters from 8/2/1904 under Commander Douglas L Dent
1907 ditto rank HMS CORNWALL Battleship Atlantic Fleet from 13/3/1907 under Captain Herbert C C DaCosta
1910 ditto rank HMS GIBRALTAR Cruiser of Home Fleet, Devonport (Detailed for Special Service) from 13/10/1909 under Captain Edmund P F G Grant
1913 Not listed
1914 Not listed
Jan 1915 Lieutenant-Commander Retired (Re-employed) HMS IRRESISTIBLE Battleship from 4/8/1914 (Sunk by Torpedo from shore battery Dardanelles 18/3/1915) under Captain The Hon Stanhope Hawke
Dec 1915 HMS EUROPA Cruiser 28/6/1915 under Captain John E Drummond
Feb 1918 HMS VICTORY for duty at Haslar Camp 3/2/1916 under Captain Francis E M Garforth
Dec 1918 ditto rank
1920 Not listed

[Richard Maskiell]

Seeking hard to find records on Charles L.L Young. Two months before outbreak of WW1 he was in Sydney on S.S Clan Macrae (bound for Melbourne then Fremantle then who knows)- letter signed Lt Charles Young (retired), 2 June 1914. Sixteen years later he resided in Silverstream, Wellington N.Z:signed letter Jan 1930 as Commander C.L.L Young R.N of N.Z. Information he provides in a letter indicates he was on HMS Irresistible when she went down 18 March 1915. Parents Lamont (disapeared 1880) and Dora Young. Charles had 3 sons. Any information greatly appreaciated. cheers, Smithy

London Gazettes:
31.5.1912 Placed on the Retired List at own request 31.5.1912
1.8.1919 promoted from Lieut-Comdr (retd) to Commander (retd) 5.7.1919

He would presumably have became a retired Lt Cdr when that rank was established in 1914 with seniority probably 30.6.1909 being 8 years after promotion to Lieutenant.

[ssmith2]

Thanks Richard, much appreciated:
The story goes: Charles Young was the son of Lamont Young, Geological Surveyor for the NSW Mines Department. In 1880 Lamont and his offsider Max Schneider were instructed to Montreal Goldfields near Bermagui to survey the site for the Mines Dept. After checking in with the Mines Warden and Police; Young, Schneider and three men from Bateman’s Bay were never seen of again…one of the men’s boat (Thomas Towers) was found stove in from the inside at a place now called Mystery Bay with Young’s and Schneider’s belongings inside. Some bullet casings were also found. In 1883 a Select Committee was established in Sydney where witnesses were called and evidence received, a Committee Report was written about the case in 1884 – Charles Young had a copy of this report on the Irresistible when she went down in the Dardanelles in 1915, the Report went down with her. Sixteen years later he wrote to NSW Police requesting another copy of the report.
The book starts in the Dardenelles with Charles Young!

[LenYoung74]

Lt. Cmdr Charles Lamont Lind Young, RN was my great grandfather!!

He's on the deck of the HMS Irresistible, one of the British Navy's attack force bound for the Dardanelles in the ill-fated naval attack on Gallipoli. Despite its name, the Irresistible was sunk and Charles injured in the process.

Because of his injuries he was invalided out of the navy.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, a group of farmers in New Zealand established the "New Zealand Sheep Owners Acknowledgement of Debt to British Seamen Fund" (catchy name!)

Because of this fund, it was possible for Charles to send his sons to New Zealand to learn sheep farming, and eventually the whole family followed.

His son, Lamont Arthur Lind Young was his eldest son and my grandfather.

My uncles and cousin are busy building the history of my grand father and my great grandfater. Feel free to contact me if you think I can assist.