Slava Class Moscow

[GaryM]

Especially for Harry as he was so complimentary about my earlier postings.
:):):)

[GaryM]

Few More photographs of the Slava Class Moscow.

[harry.gibbon]

Nice one Garry!!!;);)

Little h

[r.morrison]

Excellent photos, they do provide a very close look at this ship. I will in a few weeks time post a line drawing showing "the next step on". This project, on a KIROV hull, had the same SS N arrangement in two banks of eight, but also had a forward pair of SS N 14 ASW missiles.

It had a pair of 100mm turrets placed side by side astern. (X position).

The AA protection was based on at least one SA N 6 group, three SA N 4 groups and eight AK 630 30mm gatlings.

Ten deck mounted 533 mm TT (2 lots of 5) and several RBU ASW rocket launchers completed the ships defence.

There were at least four PK 2 decoy launchers.

However, as so many times in the ex URSS, this plan fell through and the slava and kirov designs retained.

Sorry not to be able to post it right now, but it is not possible at the moment

Best wishes to all

[r.morrison]

One or two little gems.............:)

[steve roberts]

Nice photos all round well posted.Cavalry man.Like the dog!!;)will look forward to your next posting on the new class.Well done Gary First class pictures.Regards Steve.

[r.morrison]

The "new class" is actually one which never saw the light of day and I will post it in ten days time or so, best wishes

[r.morrison]

I have not as such seen this photo before except in an overhead view, here we see the SA N 6 missile silos. :cool:

[r.morrison]

There is a rumour about on certain RU sites that the UKRAINIA, a partly finished SLAVA class which was "given" to Ukraine in the past, may be transferred back to the Russian Navy.
This would certainly be a more political than strategic move and one must wonder about the actual state of this ship, more rust than paint ? Can it possibly go back into service one day?:cool:

[r.morrison]

Refering to post N° 4, here is a project which "might have been" but would have normally used a part of the layout of SLAVA and the hull of KIROV

[Luca]

Refering to post N° 4, here is a project which "might have been" but would have normally used a part of the layout of SLAVA and the hull of KIROV

Wow, thanx Morrison:)

Like the much cheaper (I guess) Slavas... really poor damage control capabilities, with all those huge sandbox/silex fixed on the bridge! Soviet tactics never went beyond a "first strike and run away at full speed" scenario?:cool: (e.g. Kashin mod).

[designeraccd]

A pair of bow views of the "offensive" end of the hero of the Black Sea battles versus that fearsome Georgian "Fleet"! One Harpoon hit in the middle of those launchers...KA-BOOM!

Hopefully neither type of missile will ever be used......ok, so I'm a dreamer. DFO :D

[designeraccd]

A nice view of her twin 5.1" and a overall view...Malta? DFO :D

[steve roberts]

Hi DFO.Certainlylooks like Malta.Moored Custom Hose quay,photo taken from Upper Barracka?
Regards Steve.

[designeraccd]

A photo of the SS-N-12 + a stern view...........last word I've read as of yesterday is that she and P. Veliky are now at Vladivostok! DFO ;)

[Rogov]

No, only "Petr Velikiĭ". "Moscow" in the path.

[designeraccd]

??????????? Do you mean BOTH Moskva and P. Veliky are in Vladivostock, as I said?? I did see that Moskva had visited Manila in the last week or so, but apparently not P. Veliky, too. DFO :confused:

15.05.2010
Text: RIA Novosti

Black Sea Fleet (BSF) flagship Guard missile cruiser Moskva paid Friday a formal visit to port of Manila, capital of Philippines, reports BSF information support group.

This visit has become the first call of Russian warship at a port of Philippines within last 94 years.

[Rogov]

http://www.rian.ru/defense_safety/20100520/236455186.html


cruiser "Moskva" - in Monday, May 24

[r.morrison]

PETER VELIKLEY has ariived in VLADIVOSTOCK on the 19 th of may according to RU sources.:cool:

[astraltrader]

Fantastic news.

[designeraccd]

Apparently NO breakdowns along the way needing that Fleet Tug to tow???! Far better than the Czar's Second Fleet! DFO ;):D

[designeraccd]

The CREAM of the Russian Fleet is now in Vladivostok........


Russian warships gather at Far East for drills

English.news.cn 2010-05-26

VLADIVOSTOK, Russia, May 26 (Xinhua) -- Three Russian flagships have gathered at the Far East region for the upcoming large-scale naval exercises, said a spokesman for the Pacific Fleet on Wednesday.

The Moskva missile cruiser as flagship of the Black Sea fleet arrived at a naval base near Vladivostok on Wednesday, uniting with Pyotr Veliky the nuclear guided-missile cruiser of the Northern Fleet and guided-missile cruiser Varyag of the Pacific Fleet.

The spokesman said the three warships will set off for the Sea of Japan "to complete combat training tasks and hold naval drills," with the exact date of the drills yet to be determined, the RIA Novosti news agency reported.

The naval drills were reported previously as part of the Vostok-2010 large-scale strategic exercise this summer.

On May 19, the Russian Defense Ministry said Pyotr Veliky completed three-day naval exercises in the Sea of Japan, which has also conducted exercises in the South China Sea with Moskva a week earlier.

Russia announced in 2007 that it was building up its naval presence across the world.


DFO ;)

[r.morrison]

Specialized russian sites indicate that the SLAVA class MOCKBA was welcomed to PRIMOYRE territory on the 26 th of may without mishap:p

[r.morrison]

The VARYAG (SLAVA class from the PACIFIC FLEET) is leaving on 4th of june in company with FOTIY KRYLOV (salvage tug actually in civillian colours) and the tanker BORIS BOTUMA.
Destination : USA, with a major stop in SAN FRAN on the program.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100603/159281353.html

:cool:

[r.morrison]

Concerning post #9, I've found a series of photos of UKRAINIA. They are of very poor quality for the majority, so will attach only one. If the ship seems OK, the decks seemed to be littered with various debris and in need of repair......:cool:

[r.morrison]

Apparently concerning UKRAINIA two "rumours" appear to go about :

EITHER : Ukraine wishes to give the ship back to Russia and Russia will finish it and put it in to service (far from evident....):confused:

OR : Russia will help UKRAINE to finish this ship to put it into service in the UKR navy (even less likely I think.....):rolleyes:

It could also end up on the beach at ALANG:(

[Luca]

:eek:It seems that the long-delayed fourth Slava is going to be put in service... after 20 years.

http://www.en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100517/159052017.html

[r.morrison]

Well this confirms the various rumours on the go for the past few weeks.

However, the hulk does seem to be in a shockingly bad condition......:cool:

[r.morrison]

VARYAG has arrived in the US......:cool:

It must be a moment since a Russian missile cruiser has sailed under the Golden Gate.....(the second photo on this link is WELL worth a good look)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?99988-Russian-Photos-(updated-on-regular-basis)/page2277

[John Odom]

Stunning picture. I think that is the Oakland Bay bridge, Not the Golden Gate.

[Luca]

However, the hulk does seem to be in a shockingly bad condition......:cool:

Imho, fitting out Ukraina does not make much sense in modern warfare: the Slavas were largely outdated already in the 80s, with their 60s-style radars and Ecm (Top Pair, Top Steer on Moskva and Admiral Ustinov, Side globe), impractical weapons (ss-n-12 sandbox), and - I guess - cramped living conditions. The AAW is quite impressive, but only one Top Dome means no full coverage (because of the ship mast just behind).

It only makes sense considering the poor state of russian shipbulding: no facilities or tech background anymore for launching big hulks, so it could be easier completing an old one.

[r.morrison]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?99988-Russian-Photos-(updated-on-regular-basis)/page2278

A fine selection of photos of the 2 VARYAG:cool:

[PHOENIX09]

An excellent set of shots for the modeller can be found here.
http://svsm.org/gallery/varyag

[r.morrison]

UKRAINIA.........I think the shipyards will have to spend a lot of roubles to get this baby into active service :rolleyes:

[Luca]

Morrison you always post amazing photos:) The pic shows a Foot Ball (?) ECM device, while the sister ships retain the much older Side Globe.

[designeraccd]

Sad looking hulk, with outdated equipment in what state of misrepair?? Good luck making an effective fighting unit out of the hulk. OTOH, should be pretty powerful....against GEORGIAN Navy, assuming the 5.1" work! DFO :rolleyes:

A pair of pics of the rusty hulk....good luck getting her functional! Of course with enough time and $$$; almost anything is possible. However, 80s electronics, wiring and seals that old.....hope she has good PUMPS! :eek:

[designeraccd]

OTOH...a glamor shot of the VARYAG supposedly taken before her recent voyage to San Francisco. Certainly shows-dramatically-her sleek hull and those big bad SSM launchers!...........DFO :D