Casualty Lists for German ships sunk in World War 1 and 2

[Gypsyvannergirl]

Really quick question. I am going round in circles on the internet looking for casualty lists from German Vessels that were sunk in World War 1 and 2. I was wondering if someone could point me in a direction that might narrow my search down a little.

The project I am working on encompases all vessels from the Royal Navy, the USA and Germany - and includes matching casualty lists (or rolls of honor) with the vessels that went down. So far it is definitely easier to locate rolls of honor for allied vessels, but I can't believe that the ordinary German sailor who was simply doing the same service for his country could just be forgotten. They were brave too.

Can someone help me? I'll check out any websites that are recommended.

Thank you and peace for the coming season

Gypsyvannergirl

[steve roberts]

Hi Corrine.Try the following sites. For german submariners on wikipedia under laboe memorial sites(thats Germany by the way where their sub memorial museum is) For all others there is a rather complecated sight to enter in, but try as follows. home.qet.net/~wee-monster/military.html.Hope you have success,if not there is bound to be some one on the Forum who can help.Regards Sreve Roberts.

[Gypsyvannergirl]

Thanks, I'll follow up on your info.

I was kinda nervous asking because I wasn't sure if there was still animosity between both of the navies even this many years after the wars. I just can't get over how awesome some of the German Battleships were, even though they did some devastating attacks (HMS Hood for one). I'm sure their crews had difficulty with some of the things they were commanded to do. They were young too. Atrocities are atrocities, I don't think it matters which country you look at.

[steve roberts]

Hi Corrine.I think you will find very little animosity between German and British sailors,either WW" survivors or present day sevice men.Both sides were doing their duty to their country as best they could.OK they tried to kill each other,but that was their job.There are lots of accounts of the kindness shown to survivors on both sides.Of course there are stories of attrocities to,but these are few and far between.How do you draw the line between the truth and propaganda? hope my suggested sites are of use.Regards Steve Roberts

[Benbow]

Hi,

This site may assist for crew lists and each crewmans fate for Uboats WW1 and WW2.

http://www.ubootwaffe.net/index.html

http://www.ubootwaffe.net/crews/crews.cgi

These chaps might be able to link you to other sites.

Steve

[Gypsyvannergirl]

Thanks you all, I will look up all information recommended.

Regarding animosity - There were so many brave men on both sides and like you said they were doing what they had been trained too.

I just know that animosity does still exist somewhat around Pearl Harbor and the last thing I want to do is upset anyone especially at this time of year where I hope everyone can find peace even just for a short time.

Gypsyvannergirl

[John Odom]

On Hatred: Because I grew up in the Philippines and heard daily the stories of my classmates and teachers who were victims of the Japanese Imperial forced during the WWII occupation I hated Japanese for about 50 years. When I was sent to Japan in 1996 and met wonderful Japanese people, and on the next trips Japanese veterans as well, God took the hate away. I am now a happier man. Read the "Atrocities" thread on this board..

[Gypsyvannergirl]

I'm sorry.

No matter what incident happened in the war I realize that the soldiers/sailors were only following commands. I just want my project to be complete and some of the largest losses of life were on German battleships and battlecruisers or heavy cruisers.

As I have said before I truly believe that only those whose names are forgotten are truly dead. I don't want anyone to be forgotten.

I apologize if I have offended anyone. I have watched ceremonies at the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor and I have seen Japanese and United States veterans shake hands and embrace and allow the anger to go and they have been much happier for it. And I've heard of others that can never forgive or forget.

My father wasn't even in the war - he was a 'peacekeeper' on Cyprus during the conflict between Greece and Turkey, in the 50's. He never even carried a gun. And yet to hear him talk you'd think he was an expert on everything. And he can spew enough hatred for everyone who is not British and the more he drinks the worse he gets. So I'm trying to sort through this myself and I'm going to make mistakes and say dumb things, I just ask for your patience and understanding. (For the record: I don't like my father and haven't spoken to him in five years.)

Please have a peaceful holiday and the happiest of new years.

[steve roberts]

Hi Corrine.Hatred unfortunately still does exist in those with narrow minds.Dont think for one minute that you have upset anyone on the forum,we all have our own thoughts on various things that happened but these things happened in the past and in the past they must remain(to miss quote the song ("Flower of Scotland) For an incidence of an attrosity have a look at my post in WW2 under everything else,I think you will find that while not condoned,things can be remembered with respect for victems.To all victems everywhere and THOSE STILL ON PATROL,Peace andremember you are not forgotten. Steve Roberts.