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warshipdisposal
08-09-2009, 14:48
Tis i again........ could anyone help with photographs...with serial numbers if poss please of any westland wasps as im building a database with photos of all uk wasps

vmt in advance

steve:)

CYLLA
08-09-2009, 14:57
WARSHIPDISPOSAL,

Here is a view of H.M.S MOHAWK ......wasp .

That was the air crew ,doing some fishing.

cylla

CYLLA
08-09-2009, 15:03
H.M.S PLYMOUTH .

When she was still on show .

cylla

CYLLA
08-09-2009, 15:09
H.M.S SCYLLA.

During a weekend afternoon.

Not a brilliant piccy ,i was just trying to capture the feel of life on board during the cruise to the far flung

cylla

warshipdisposal
08-09-2009, 18:11
many thanks chaps always get a good response very much appreciated

steve

harry.gibbon
08-09-2009, 18:43
Is this any good?:-

http://www.helis.com/database/model/102/

Little h

warshipdisposal
08-09-2009, 19:14
thanks little h a great site but limited pics

steve

Wafu
08-09-2009, 23:59
55588
There is a nice little story that goes with this.
I was on 845 on the Bulwark in 66 and we went ashore to Simbang to annoy the royals. I noticed that every time my Wessex flew it came back with gearbox oil down the side of the fuselage.Naturally I reported it, we checked all the pipe unions for leaks and found nothing and it was cleared for flight.Same thing happened, reported it again, this time they did a tied down run and checked it at full chat. No leaks,cleared for flight. Yet again same thing happened, reported it so they did non destructive testing to check the gearbox for cracks. Nothing found so it was cleared again.
I saw the Chief Mech and said that I was not happy to sign for any more servicing, he was not a happy chappie. The next day we re-embarked, the so and so made me fly in it.
I was immediately put on the communal party for a month in the P.O's mess and we sailed for Brisbane.
The squadron went ashore and the aircraft crashed on take off during the exercise. The gearbox cracked and the head came adrift at about 50 feet. Fortunately no one was hurt.
When my stint was over I was summoned to the Chief Mech who asked me where I would like to work.
The squadron Wasp was my immediate choice, spent the rest of the commission sunbathing and polishing it with Johnson's wax. Kept my mouth shut though.
Went to Condor on killicks course and there was the remains of the gearbox being used as a demonstratiion as what can happen through fatigue.;)

tonclass
09-09-2009, 01:15
I know for a fact, there is one of the Leander class 'Wasps' at Boscombe Down, in their makeshift museum. I think it's from either Hermione or Diomede. Will make some enquiries for you.

warshipdisposal
09-09-2009, 13:04
Hi rick...you are indeed right its from diomede i was at the museum last year or was it this year and got some good pics, great little museum and i served on diomede too...vmt steve

CYLLA
09-09-2009, 13:45
I did a "google " on make shift museum.

and found this ............http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/museums/boscombe/xt437.htm



cylla

warshipdisposal
09-09-2009, 15:20
thanks for that rik here are some i took at boscombe down well worth a visit for anyone who want a pleasant sunday morning among some nice exhibits

steve

tonclass
09-09-2009, 16:29
My problem is I see this every day at work and nothing appears to be getting renovated. It just looks like a pile of scrap, but I was given a guided tour once, and the model collection of every aircraft that has ever flown from Boscombe is amazing.

warshipdisposal
10-09-2009, 14:21
i know they have had problems with quinetiq and getting people booked in and had hoped to have an entrance of their own nearer to the museum at some stage, i think with some luck it could be a little gem of a museum and which would well be worht supporting, i even managed to get very cheaply a print of canopus that i had seen on sale commercially for £200 at a silly price, canopus you will remember im sure is the comet at bruntingthorpe that was destined to be restored to flying condition but will now sadly only achieve fast taxi runs, her last flight was from boscombe to bruntingthorpe, i managed to visit it and xv148 just b4 they were sold and had a very nice tour courtesy of the crabs (junior service what what).

seaking
11-09-2009, 18:54
Tis i again........ could anyone help with photographs...with serial numbers if poss please of any westland wasps as im building a database with photos of all uk wasps

vmt in advance

steve:)

The Wasp was the first chopper I worked on at NASU Culdrose in 1969 I have some wasp pics somewhere I'll dig them out and post here. I think the serial number of one of the ones I worked on was XS496

Scratcher
11-09-2009, 19:51
Lowestofts Wasp.

alanbenn
11-09-2009, 20:25
Here's a few more 'Wasps' don't know if they've been posted before or not......anyhow the photo also states which ship they belong to.


Regards
Alan

harry.gibbon
11-09-2009, 20:58
Alan 2 out of 3 ain't bad mate!!!!! centre one ain't a wasp but lynx me thinks

Little h

tonclass
11-09-2009, 21:25
Steve, it's been noticable we've not seen any more of your pix of "WARSHIPDISPOSALS" of late. Perhaps you could tantalise us all with some more of your collection. It might help you get some more responses to your other threads...Just a thought ;)

seaking
11-09-2009, 23:06
Here's a couple, hope it helps, pics of the wasp are getting rare to find now unless in a personal collection.

mik43
12-09-2009, 17:15
little h

I think alan is just trying to make sure that we're all paying attention!!!

Mik

alanbenn
12-09-2009, 20:57
little h

I think alan is just trying to make sure that we're all paying attention!!!




Well actually Mik I wasn't, hadn't even looked at them properly before I posted them, I put them up quickly as I had just finished my 12 hour day shift and was ready for going to bed.
But as arry said 2 out of 3 ain't bad, I'll amend the one I erred on should the need arise to look at it again in the future.

Regards
Alan

harry.gibbon
12-09-2009, 20:59
No worries Alan mate its not a bad pic of a Lynx anyway! I see it is out of Yeovilton and not off the Ikara Leander RAS 'ing below it!!

Little h

fearless_rs
19-09-2009, 13:36
There was a Wasp doing the rounds of super market car parks on the south coast. It was presented as 474 [Correct Mohawk signs], HMS MOHAWK but apparently the actual aircraft had never been onboard.

warshipdisposal
19-09-2009, 13:44
That's true I saw it at Havant Asda the last time...... then they were not sure of its correct identity and the idea of it doing the rounds at asda was to raise money for its restoration, i remember its tail rotor ( made of wood) had seen better days but i threw a few quid in as it seemed like a good cause...... perhaps the royal navy should cart some warships around asda car parks... it might help us keep a navy

rumrat
19-09-2009, 16:20
I don't know if your interested in these pictures of YARMOUTH's Wasp she ditched during a flyby display at Familys day 1977 the pilot missjudged the distance and clipped the whip ariel, It was recovered by RMAS LAYBURN .

Regards
Dave

harry.gibbon
19-09-2009, 16:22
But the helicopter has Yarmouth on it!!!!!;) Little h

rumrat
19-09-2009, 16:52
If your going to be picky i'll change it.
Regards
Dave

warshipdisposal
19-09-2009, 17:04
thanks rum rat it looks a mess hope the crew got out safely

davep
19-09-2009, 18:31
interesting pics thanks for posting

faakeith
20-09-2009, 17:29
http://www.ukserials.com/results.php?serial=Xs

Steve this site will have all serial numbers and what happened to them. I'm afraid the hard bit will be getting the pictures.

The fleet air arm museum might be helpfull with complete list of serial numbers or you could even try Westlands, they may have a library or archive.

Good luck:)

Try as I might I cannot find a 1/72nd version to make. If anyone has any pointers I'd be grateful. Am trying to get a collection together, have several Lynx, a Wessex, a Whirlwind and a Seaking but could do with a wasp to finish it off.:(

warshipdisposal
20-09-2009, 21:13
fujimi did a wasp kit and they come up on ebay quite regularly...not doing too badly onpics its surprising how many are about

faakeith
21-09-2009, 08:52
fujimi did a wasp kit and they come up on ebay quite regularly...not doing too badly onpics its surprising how many are about

I'll have a wee look there, cheers Steve.:D

davep
21-09-2009, 11:08
fujimi wasp kit looked quite good to me it was in 1/48th scale though. dont know how it builds up as the ex wife took it from my stockpile of kits and gave it to her nephew before i had a chance to build it.

faakeith
21-09-2009, 11:49
fujimi wasp kit looked quite good to me it was in 1/48th scale though. dont know how it builds up as the ex wife took it from my stockpile of kits and gave it to her nephew before i had a chance to build it.

Sorry to hear that Dave. I have my collection so far in 1/72, mostly Airfix but Italeri are very good aswell. Maybe I'll post some pictures in the modelling forum.

ObiWanRussell
21-09-2009, 16:12
Airfix did do a 1/72 westland scout model, I made a couple back in the early 80s. A bit of creativity with manufacturing new undercarriage and you're on your way...

davep
21-09-2009, 16:14
i've a couple of seakings both by heller and hasegawa that look to have nice detail especially the hasegawa kit.
i've recently built the revell raf merlin and thats a great looking kit, i've the rn merlin and the italeri rn and canadian merlin/cormorant in my to do pile

Mac Hendry
22-05-2010, 19:29
Here's Hecla's cab taken in the West Indies, I should have some more somewhere.

INVINCIBLE
22-05-2010, 19:37
I have quite a few pictures of FALMOUTH's Wasp if there is still any need for Wasp pics.

Mac Hendry
23-05-2010, 18:48
Here's some more of the Hecla's cab.The first was on Aves Island where we were setting up a tide gauge camp. The second, not so clear, was on Union Island where I was based on a detached survey party.

ColinP
24-05-2010, 06:26
Here is a picture of one at the Malaysian Air force Musuem in KL

Mac Hendry
24-05-2010, 10:50
Here's some more of the Hecla's cab.The first was on Aves Island where we were setting up a tide gauge camp. The second, not so clear, was on Union Island where I was based on a detached survey party.

If you look closely on the second photo above the rotor hub the shirtless bloke is manning the "control tower".The building was our home and chart drawing room.
Mac

johnbushell
25-05-2010, 19:59
Lowestofts Wasp.

I took this photograph in 1972.

warshipdisposal
20-06-2010, 12:42
thanks for the continued support in putting together a complete collection of the wasp very much appreciated

JackW1208
20-06-2010, 15:21
Here are a couple of 'not very good' slides taken in 1967/68 onboard HMS Gurkha in the Persian Gulf of the ships Wasp 444.

Jack.

Rob Hoole
02-07-2010, 17:34
HMS Minerva's Wasp in 1975, previously posted in the Photo Galleries LEANDERs thread.

harry.gibbon
17-07-2010, 23:31
Euryalus's Wasp takes off from Ark Royal.

Got one of the Aurora's Wasp which I will eventually be able to scan in and post.

Little h

marjack126
24-07-2010, 00:27
Following from helis.com helicopter history site (http://www.helis.com/database/cn/382/)

XT788 is Alive & Well. Glad to be able to update the history of this helicopter. Now owned by Xray Tango Helicopter Club, a helicopter preservation society based in Devon, England. Go to my website foxnwolf(dot)com, click on Tribute link (top right corner) Scroll down to Royal Navy (in left column) There are 5 live links (inc 3 pictures) You are welcome to save/keep the 3 pics from my website, I took these photographs around 14:00hrs on Monday 31st August 2009 Kind regards........Peter

harry.gibbon
30-07-2010, 11:00
Not all that good but here is a pic of Aurora's Wasp:-

Little h

barracuda
13-08-2010, 21:07
I've a copy of a photo of HMS Tartar with her wasp (477) on the flight deck. Can't post it because I don't have the copyright. But copies of the photo are for sale on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/rp5119-UK-Warship-HMS-Tartar-F133-photo-6x4-/390224250880?pt=UK_Collectables_Postcards_MJ

Peter

marjack126
14-08-2010, 00:11
When Plymouth was open in Birkenhead, although the Wasp was never Plymouth Flight.

She was actually XS570 (Jasper) from Ariadne.

Standing with her is her maintainer Ian 'Buck' Taylor who was flight greenie on Ariadne 75-76.

Bronny in the background.

sundodger
15-08-2010, 09:30
I wonder if any one knows which wasp was inadvertantly shot down by a green grenade from Hms/m Ocelot whilst carrying out a simulated attack of Portland on or around the mid 1970's?

Sundodger

wings254
16-08-2010, 19:34
A couple of pictures from my time on 829 Sqdn.

The first is 408 on board the Vidal in the Persian Gulf in 1969 undergoing an engine change.

The second is also Vidal flight on deployment in the Isle of Tiree in 1968 supporting a Pongo survey detatchment - the aircraft we used was 450 from the Sirius.

Blaydon
16-08-2010, 21:28
I wonder if any one knows which wasp was inadvertantly shot down by a green grenade from Hms/m Ocelot whilst carrying out a simulated attack of Portland on or around the mid 1970's?

Sundodger

Possibly XS531 703 Sqn numbered 504 ditched returning to HMS Rothesay 29 mar 1977

astraltrader
17-08-2010, 01:08
A couple of pictures from my time on 829 Sqdn.

The first is 408 on board the Vidal in the Persian Gulf in 1969 undergoing an engine change.

The second is also Vidal flight on deployment in the Isle of Tiree in 1968 supporting a Pongo survey detatchment - the aircraft we used was 450 from the Sirius.

Welcome to the forum Wings and many thanks for the pictures! :)

Hugh Williams
17-08-2010, 10:47
Hi,

A couple of pics of HMS Endurance's Wasp, currently at IWM Duxford.

Cheers,

Hugh

greenrw
22-08-2010, 19:38
Hi Warshipdisposal,
Can`t help with any pictures but maybe this information will be of use?
The wasp started life as a Saunders Roe design concept and two prototypes were launched numbered P531-0N and P531-2. Initial certification trials were conducted in 1958 with aircraft XN332 together later with a further two prototypes XN333 and XN334.
Royal Navy, Squadron 771 at Yeovilton had the later two in 1959 for evaluation, trials aboard ship included HMS UNDAUNTED. A platform fit for purpose was constructed aft specifically for the sea trials programme.
The first pre prod Wasps were built at Hayes midx XS463 the second aircraft XS527 became the first production HAS Mk1, this flew for the first time early in 1963. This was the first aircraft to be taken on RN charge in June 1963. This particular aircraft survived in service until 1985 having seen service in the Falkland conflict. There were 96 Production HAS Mk1s a lot of Serial numbers to collate and match to photographs!!!!. All these aircraft were built at Hayes the first batch of which went to 700w Squadron Culdrose. Wasps flew from Leander, Tribal and I believe Rothesay Class Frigates.
These are some of the Serial numbers
First batch of 30 XS802 thru to 812 and XS834 thru to 852
Second batch of 30 XT414 thru to 443
Third batch of 18 XT778 thru to 795
Forth batch of 18 XV622 thru to 639
I appreciate you wanted info specific to RN aircraft, but may be interested to know that Westland successfully exported the Wasp to Indonesia (6), Royal Netherlands Navy (12, 13?),
RNZ Air Force (6), South African Air Force (17 ordered, 16 delivered) and the Brazilian Navy (4?) with an additional 7 refurbished ex RN types.
Former Inmate to the Westland Engineering Emporium
Robert Bob Green

barracuda
08-09-2010, 23:03
Whilst pottering about the Internet, like one does, I came across this super photo of a wasp in flight. I think it's HMS Eskimo's (would that be HMS Inuit nowadays?) but looks like it has civilian passengers. Hope it's of use.

http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/wasp_brianspurr.jpg

marjack126
09-09-2010, 07:04
Whilst pottering about the Internet, like one does, I came across this super photo of a wasp in flight. I think it's HMS Eskimo's (would that be HMS Inuit nowadays?) but looks like it has civilian passengers. Hope it's of use.

http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/wasp_brianspurr.jpg

Great photo barracuda :)

Probably wardroom-types off on a banyan :rolleyes:

INVINCIBLE
09-09-2010, 12:04
A shot of our ‘budgie’ (441 – FALMOUTH Flight) taking part in a fly past in the Atlantic during a Group Deployment in 1975. Plus photo landing back on afterwards.

tjstoneman
09-09-2010, 13:32
Barracuda's link (post #58) appears to show a photo of a Wasp in civilian hands. XT781 was transferred from the Fleet Air Arm to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 1983, who retired it in 1998. It joined the civilian register, going to South Africa in 2005. See, for example, http://www.helis.com/database/cn/92/.
Tim

JackW1208
09-09-2010, 15:50
Barracuda's link (post #58) appears to show a photo of a Wasp in civilian hands. XT871 was transferred from the Fleet Air Arm to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 1983, who retired it in 1998. It joined the civilian register, going to South Africa in 2005. See, for example, http://www.helis.com/database/cn/92/.
Tim


Hi Tim, the No is XT781, with HMS Eskimo on the cab front!

Cheers
Jack.

tjstoneman
09-09-2010, 19:16
Thanks Jack - my typo - have amended my post to the correct serial.

bert-261
02-02-2012, 08:26
Better late than never I hope? This again is Gurkha ship's flight also taken 67/68, also with some adornment in an off duty moment. bert-261

eskimosailor
02-02-2012, 10:48
Hi Tim, the No is XT781, with HMS Eskimo on the cab front!

Cheers
Jack.

If it's still in Navy hands when the photo was taken, then it is flying from a shore base. Operating at sea they should always have had the front doors removed.
Steve

eskimosailor
02-02-2012, 13:10
I have posted a number of Wasp pictures elsewhere on this forum, all taken on board HMS Eskimo, despite one saying Dido. That is explained further on in that thread. The relevant links are:

http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=111067&d=1327521229
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=106997&d=1320614067
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=98776&d=1305989136
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=98671&d=1305835880
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=98777&d=1305989136

I have never understood why the really simple rotor control system of the Wasp is not used more. From looking at modern choppers, albeit from a distance these days, they mostly seem to use variants on the original Sikorsky pattern. The cruciform operating arm inside a bell - shaped final drive seems so much simpler, with far fewer parts to go wrong. I must be missing something:confused::confused:
Steve

Scurs
02-02-2012, 14:17
AJAX's Wasp - circa 1965/66

scouse
03-02-2012, 10:59
Life as an Wasp Aimer/aircrewman Hms Danae . SSII launch off Chesil Beach.

scouse
03-02-2012, 11:07
AS12 launch and lashed down.

john keenan
03-02-2012, 13:24
A couple of pictures from my time on 829 Sqdn.

The first is 408 on board the Vidal in the Persian Gulf in 1969 undergoing an engine change.

The second is also Vidal flight on deployment in the Isle of Tiree in 1968 supporting a Pongo survey detatchment - the aircraft we used was 450 from the Sirius.

I remember that. I flew it her into the desert to work with decca engineers.

Mitch Hinde
03-02-2012, 15:18
Hi All

HMS Naiad, 1966, Irish Sea. Wasp ditches, floatation gear works perfectly. Unfortunately the boat sent away to pick up the pilot and get a line on the aircraft rams one of the pontoons and sinks it. Don't know if any pics exist but I haven't seen any.
I was in the wireless office at the time listening to the pilot saying,"Fire out, going in". Dashed uptop just in time to see the pilot sitting on top of the canopy.

Mitch Hinde

eskimosailor
04-02-2012, 19:01
AS12 launch and lashed down.

I recall we were sent a couple of AS12s while in the Indian Ocean. After we had done the practice firing all the kit was boxed up and sent back to Fleetlands. Next thing I know my boss had me in front of the skipper for not sending back the launcher jettison explosive bolt.
Skipper asked me why not, so I replied I did not know it was essential. I had not done the SAMCO, and fitted everything from the book. Boss was not best pleased when I was let off, but he should have asked.:rolleyes:
Steve

Alan D
06-02-2012, 02:06
I served on Moresby 1971 - 1973 when we embarked a Westland Scout and often wondered what the differences were compared to a Wasp apart from skids which were more functional when doing droggie work. We had a pilot who did his helicopter test pilot course in the UK and was a superb flyer whose party tricks were stall turns and flying athwartships in either direction between the forward superstructure and funnel when underway.

eskimosailor
19-02-2012, 14:19
I served on Moresby 1971 - 1973 when we embarked a Westland Scout and often wondered what the differences were compared to a Wasp apart from skids which were more functional when doing droggie work. We had a pilot who did his helicopter test pilot course in the UK and was a superb flyer whose party tricks were stall turns and flying athwartships in either direction between the forward superstructure and funnel when underway.

One particular feature for operating at sea was that the Wasp had negative angle of attack on the rotor blades in order for it to press itself down on deck on landing. This was handy on an energetically moving flight deck in between landing and getting the hold - down strops attached. I don't know if other choppers had this feature.
Wasps also had a release mechanism for a hold - fast under the centre of the fuselage about which it pivoted prior to take off. This allowed the pilot to put on a bit of lift before releasing it so the chopper almost sprang from the deck.
Our pilot, Geoff Cavalier, was credited with devising a new method of auto - rotating without the engine. Prior to his method the tail got badly damaged on landing with power off.
The wheels enabled the Wasp to turn into wind prior to take off. This saved the ship having to turn into wind.
Steve

bluestreak
21-02-2012, 16:45
Eskimosailor, I've been wracking my brains trying to think of our pilot's name, then in your last post up it comes, Geof Cavalier. Didn't he get a "BZ" and a slapped wrist whilst we were in Gib, just before you joined us? As I recall he drove an Aston Martin, you knew when he was in the dockyard, you could hear the engine long before you saw the car!

bluestreak
21-02-2012, 16:54
This picture has been posted before, on a different thread. So I hope it is all right to post it again. XT 427, HMS Eskimo, 453.