I make no comment whatever

[herakles]

From The Age today:

Ale and hearty: Australian beer named best in world at UK festival


An Australian beer has been named the best in the world.

Barons Black Wattle Original Ale has been voted the most popular out of 50 nominations at the JD Wetherspoon International beer festival in the UK.

Barons Brewing was invited to represent Australia after producing the first beer in the world made with native Australian spices including wattle seed.

The beer is now likely to be picked up by more UK importers

[mik43]

Ah, but was the 'London' beer actually brewed in Oz and shipped over to the UK, or was it brewed in the UK to the Oz recipe?? You can be sure if it does get picked up by the accountants, sorry masses, then it will be brewed in this country. Which in turn raises(!) another question, if it is brewed in this country can it still be called an Oz beer!!!
Well, bottoms up chaps.....
Mik

[herakles]

From The Age today:

<headline>Aussies now beat Poms at beer making</headline>

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<date>December 2, 2008</date>

<!--articleExtras-wrap--> Australia has left Britain with yet another wound to lick, taking out an international gong for best beer.

"This is just another example of something the Poms invented yet have lost to the Aussies," Barons Brewing managing director Scott Garnett said.

Barons Black Wattle Original Ale was voted the most popular beer out of 50 nominations at the JD Wetherspoon international beer festival in Britain last month.

A day later, the Wallabies savaged England 28-14 at Twickenham.

Barons Brewing was one or four international contenders in the competition which was run in 717 JD Wetherspoon pubs across Britain and voted on by 8,500 customers.
The brewer was invited to represent Australia after producing the first beer in the world made with native Australian spices.

"To win number one beer at such a huge festival is a great result for Barons and Australian beer," Mr Garnett said.

The success of the beer has drawn significant interest from British importers keen to distribute Barons beers across the country.

The winning pint is described as an amber ale flavoured with native Australian roasted wattle seed, bringing out a unique flavour reminiscent of hazelnut and mocha, and with an alcohol content of 5.8 per cent.

Barons Brewing was founded in 2005 by Mr Garnett and a mate from university, Richard Adamson, who is also head brewer.

[nigelweysom]

it would seem that Australian beer is like the Australians , it cant wait to get into Britain
Nigel

[herakles]

it would seem that Australian beer is like the Australians , it cant wait to get into Britain
Nigel

Perhaps. It's more likely an attempt to redress the imbalance of the thousands of English who travel to Australia and stay there, many of them illegally.

[astraltrader]

Ah Richard - but Nigel is correct in that taking into account the difference in population a far higher percentage of Australians wish to get into the UK than the other way around. [There are also plenty of Aussies living in London illegally].;)

[herakles]

I can't quote the figures but I am confident that more English go to Australia than the reverse.

And many thousands of Australians have now either left or are leaving the UK despite a plea from the Govt. for them to stay. The ship is sinking.

There are plenty of people in general living illegally in England!! :rolleyes:

[DJBlackburn]

" 'This is just another example of something the Poms invented yet have lost to the Aussies,' Barons Brewing managing director Scott Garnett said."

I wonder what our Germanic friends think about this statement? I've heard somewhere, when God finished creating the British Isles, he celebrated with with a cool Bavarian brew!:p

[designeraccd]

I've heard somewhere, when God finished creating the British Isles, he celebrated with with a cool Bavarian brew!:p[/QUOTE]


Now that I can BELIEVE, given the innate flavor GOODNESS of most all JHURMUNN BIER! Good schhhtuff! Unlike most, but not all, chemically aged, waste of water that the majority here in the USofA are deluded into "thinking" is beer......paaaatoooey, a glass of water is better. DFO :eek::D

[Wombat]

I have been following this thread with interest and amusement.

I thought every one knew God was an Englishman!:rolleyes::D

As for the beer, it’s just another designer label, another 9 day wonder. It won't take long for the English to forget about it and revert to their own tried and true Ales.

Wombat,
(James).

[Batstiger]

The worst thing that ever happened in this country was when draught Lager was brought in on a large scale.
I remember in the early fifties the only Lager you could purchase was in bottles and that was mostly Tuborg and Carlsberg.
Then the bad times came and all sorts of draught Lagers appeared in the bars. Harp, Carlsberg Carlings to name but a few.
The younger generation thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and couldn't drink enough of the stuff.
Remember what happened after that? The breweries lost the plot and stopped brewing traditional beers and turned to casked ales which were full of gas. You couldn't get a full pint so they brought in metered pumps and larger glasses with an Imperial pint line marked on it.
I will add in here that on my 21st birthday in 1957 you could purchase exacly 16 pints for a pound @ 1/3d a pint.
Then CAMRA came to the fore and very slowly Traditional ales began to appear in the pubs again and sold like crazy.
The breweries again got a bit wiser and started brewing the Traditional way again but different types of beer and names started appearing.
The taste wasn't the same but we were so relieved to see it back in the pubs again that we drank it.
What I am trying to say is that the beer was never the same again!
Gone had the old names like Draught Bass, draught Worthington, draught Atkinsons, draught Butlers, draught Marstons etc, etc. The breweries had started to amalgamate, and buy out the little breweries and to cut a long story short we now have the option of take it or leave it.
I can afford to go out once a week on a Wednesday evening and drink four pints of bitter. These four pints of bitter cost me £10.00 @ £2.50 a pint that means that my original sixteen pints would now cost me £40.00. There has got to be a moral to this tale but I wouldn't know where to start!

Cheers and Good health, Bob.

[astraltrader]

I can't quote the figures but I am confident that more English go to Australia than the reverse.

And many thousands of Australians have now either left or are leaving the UK despite a plea from the Govt. for them to stay. The ship is sinking.

There are plenty of people in general living illegally in England!! :rolleyes:


Richard if you read what I said carefully - I said that more Australians came to England than the other way around IF you took into account the figures as a percentage of their respective populations.
Obviously in straight figures more English go to Australia than the reverse purely because the population of England is far higher than that of Australia!

[herakles]

My memory may be at fault but I recall a fuss made some time ago about labels for food products. The Germans were arguing that only they made beer. Everyone else made something else. And they were claiming rights to the name. Can anyone enlighten me?

I also have a dim memory that English beer drinking habits are extremely old. Not surprising considering the origin of the English race.

The main complaint Australians had toward English beer was that it wasn't served cold. I'm sure that's history today.

But I feel the large scale manufacture of beer has robbed it of its taste. There was a loyal following of Fosters lager but I always found this beer insipid. But then I am old enough to remember Richmond Lager, yet another good product swallowed up by a large company on the make.

I did find one really nice beer in England. Up north. It has a black label and, as I recall the word "sheep" in its name.

[HMS Bergamot]

Richard,

Brewed in Masham (pronounced Mas-sam), North Yorkshire, at the Black Sheep brewery. Probably Black Sheep ale.

http://www.blacksheepbrewery.co.uk/Default.aspx

Me, personally, I prefer an ice cold Bank's on the shores of Barbados.:rolleyes:

[herakles]

That's the one! Thanks Richard.

[Stan.J]

Harking on Bob`s remarks about lagar,
I find it rather insipid. The brews in this Country anyway.The German lagar is much superior.
However I drink Bitter. Usually Johns Smiths Magnet. NO! not the smooth.Dont like it. But the price nowadays tends to get beyond a joke.
I now have to pay £1.70 to £1.90 a pint now in my watering holes. I believe that to pay for a pint of bitter over £2 a pint is outright cheating.
Cheers,Stan

[herakles]

For those interested in the history of Australian beer:

http://www.australianbeers.com/history/cub.htm

[HMS Bergamot]

pfft!

Have a real drink!

http://www.banksbeer.com/

;)