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kookaburra

16-11-2008, 11:46

Are you one of those very odd people who cannot resist picking up anything remotely naval at an open market, secondhand booksellers, or an op shop?

Welcome to this club. Please let us known of any hidden trasures you've found.

My biggest miss: Brass ship's clock from cruiser HMAS Sydney (1) with little engraved plaque commemorating her vistory over SMS Emden in 1914.

It was in a camera shop run by a blimp in the upmarket Sydney Lower North Shore suburb of Mosman, which has many naval associations. I couldn't afford the $1300 at the time, and I saw it again later at a naval outfitters in George St.

Or maybe there were two?

Or...maybe there were 20. Two hundred - a real entrepreneur at work? Hmmm. That's an idea ...

Please keep this part of the discussion quiet.

Items here:

1.Old tobacco tin with HMAS Australia (1)
2. Miscellaneous junk.
3. HMAS Sydney(1) badge, and HMAS Sydney (11) pin badge distributed by Hoyts cinemas on the occasion of her triumphal return from the Mediterranean, the ship only to be lost with all hands in engagement with the raider Kormoran six months afterwards.

4. Cigarette cards - have hundreds, won't try to detail
5 + 6. HMS Belfast medallion that you can buy on the museum ship.
7. Poor scan direct of one of those old basic lead battleship toys, c1930s-1940s.
8. Page from book on Australian cigarette cards, this detailing values from series on USN ships and admirals.
9. Page from cigarette card book on RN ships crest series.
10. As above, RN ships and admirals
11. Embossed government postcard marking visiting of USN Great White Fleet to Melbourne, September 1908 (also posted elsewhere).

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

19-03-2009, 04:15

kookaburra

19-03-2009, 06:18

Hi Kookaburra.With regards to your post on naval bric-a-brak, I would have thought that this one would have 'taken off'. It is an interesting subject and I would have thought that the denizons of this site would have swarmed to supply items to be seen!
I am ex Royal Navy and after writing the above I realise that apart from pictures I don't have anything to show myself.
Ships in bottles usually don't mean much because the ship models are usually rubbish,but how about when the models themselves are museum standard?
I have a collection that meets this criteria but am not sure that you would call them brick-a-brack. They are hard to photograph, being in bottles, but I have put up a picture here. I have a few more but will wait to see if anyone wants to see them.
Picture is the Privateer Pearl out of Bristol, mid 18th century.

Hi Beca,

Surprised to see this one come back from the 'dead,' and yes, I find my old newsman's instincts desert me sometimes with Shore Leave. I never served in the Navy, just interested, but clearly miss the pulse sometimes for lack of shared experience.

For example, I thought a Shore Leave thread I did on 'Brothels' would be a definite 'goer,' but it hung around with no response at all, then, finally, 'oldsalt' from Plymouth dropped by, and it has now fallen back to page two with only that one response (but 227 viewers!).

Ah well. It wasn't really about brothels, just colorful places from yesteryear around the Far East ports - like Bugis Street in Singapore, Wanchai and Wolloomoloo, which I thought many of our tars should have remembered fondly. And actually, there were some collector's item photos in it - sailors outside famous 'Harry's Cafe De Wheels' in Sydney, and some quite rare scenes of old Bugis Street, which is completely changed these days.

Anyway, a 'warships on world postage stamps' thread was more popular. And 'old salt' has got five times more replies than my 'Brothels' with his new thread on 'Canteens.' I wonder what that says?

I'm afraid I'm not quite as 'conservative' as I sometimes sense the general strain of our forum is - another kind of life experience you see. But I hope everyone won't now immediately cross me off their thread visitors list because of it.

Back to bric a brac. Yes please, I'd like to see some more shots of your ships in bottles. I'll look at anything nautical.

I haven't added much to my very eclectic little collection. I did pick up another of those little pre-war lead model warship toys (poor scan in the first post) at an huge annual antique fair, one of many, that takes place on the Australia Day (January 26) weekend, this one up around a little old country hall in tiny Victorian goldfields hamlet of Fryerstown. Wonderful location, but huge crowds, hot and dusty.

If you go to these things, you would never throw anything away again. These days I usually haunt the old books and magazine stalls, looking for something with rare naval photos to post here on the forum, in pursuit of our addictive hobby.

I do have one ship model in our house, a fine grade model of the little First Fleet brig 'Friendship,' second smallest ship in the fleet, which carried 75 male and 21 female convicts to NSW. Shambolic voyage apparently, but I liked her lines. I bought it in Mauritius, back in my gravy train days, when we were somehow invited to the home of a former Qantas steward and his wife whom I was delighted to find had set up this little business making First Fleet reproductions, employing the skills of local craftsmen. Hmmm, about 16 years ago and still looks in perfect shape.

Not nearly so expensive as one would pay here, which would be $000s. Sorry I don't have a photo, and my camera is mislaid. Here's a postcard that came with the certification. Painting by Tony Crago, with whose work I'm otherwise unfamiliar.

Thanks for the reply. Let's see those ships in bottles. EDIT. I now see this postcard has come out a little spotted. If anyone wanted to save it let me know here, and I'll post a cleaned up copy.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

19-03-2009, 09:53

Hi
Thank you for your reply and it was nice that you liked the ship in bottle picture I posted. The models are really exquisite but not easy to show on a photograph.
I have noticed your posts on this site and you obviously enjoy the site as much as I do. There are some interesting chaps who come to this site and the pictures posted are something else. I have used other sites like this one but feel that this one is the best of the bunch. Naming no names but at least one other site allows a certain coarsness that I do not relish at all. I prefer the conservative gentlemanly 'feel' of WNSF.
Any way, a few pictures and who knows, this site may 'kick off' after all.

Picture 1....Grand Banks Schooner circa 1910
Picture 2....Fishing Boat circa 17th Century (I think)

I will have to re photograh some others as I was not happy with the quality.
Regards.

Wombat

19-03-2009, 22:00

I would have thought this thread would really take off.

I have always been a medal collector, which led me to Navy Medic's, but as far as ships go, "the front end was the sharp end, the back end was the blunt end":D The only connection I had with the navy was through my father.

Since joining this forum, I have now developed an interest in all things naval, and make a point of fosicking in some of the most disgusting little hovels and junk shops that go under the disguise of Antique shops.;)

There are some interesting finds out there; I thought everyone would be clammering to show off their treasure trove.

Becca, if you want to take good pictures of your ships in bottles, use a UV filter on your camera, it will stop the glare from the glass.

Here is a little item I found recently. It started out as a cape badge for a nurse on the Hospital Ship Maine (1900). It was then converted so that it could be worn as a pendant, now it has been mounted on a ribbon for wearing as a medallion. This is the first one of this type I have ever seen.

Wombat,
(James).

astraltrader

19-03-2009, 22:13

James as an Antique Dealer with a "disgusting" little Antiques unit I will try not to take offence at your kind words...:)

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

19-03-2009, 22:19

Hi James.
Interesting and attractive medalion you posted. A bit of history here.
Thank you for the tip about the filter. I have a new digital camera and can't see where a filter would fit.
Regards

P.S. There are times when the only difference between being at sea and being in jail is that at sea your cell goes up and down and makes you sick!

Wombat

19-03-2009, 23:48

James as an Antique Dealer with a "disgusting" little Antiques unit I will try not to take offence at your kind words...:)

No offence intended Terry, I apologize :o :o :o When you are being flippant it’s easy to offend someone somewhere, and that wasn't my intention. Have I groveled enough;)

Wombat,
(James).

PS Becca I have a digital camera, but I can still get filters, so it may be worth just asking at your local camera shop.

kookaburra

20-03-2009, 01:46

Thanks for posting the ships in bottles Beca, they look superb,and I agree, I find the in-built values and gentility of WNSF is far preferable. I find I just can't visit the more 'Rambo' military sites at all, even if they do have some good ships pictures.

James, the nurses's badge from USS Maine is a lovely item to have.

Terry once mentioned that his house is jam-packed with things 'like Steptoe and son.' We got a bit the same way. When I finally unpacked from my last posting , I found the accumulation of 'things' from around the world a bit overwhelming, and I just stopped. Definitely small item bric a brac for me these days.

In Melbourne, the premier place for antiques is High Street Armadale, a well-heeled inner suburb, with about a mile of high-end antique shops and arcades. The equivalent in Sydney is Woolahra, again very high end, but more dispersed.

Tasmania is a great place for it - and the whole island is a marvelous visitor place. In the north there's a beautifully preserved little 1815 Georgian town called Evandale, which has a famous weekend market. I don't have any more naval bric a brac pics to offer atm, so a couple of views from there.

BTW, do people know what I mean when I spoke of the little pre-war lead battleship toys, or were they maybe just something made here?

Oh, here's a streak of madness. When my son was small and I was travelling about a lot, I started buying him sets of Britains metal model soldiers, which I'd loved as a kid. Got them from FAO Schwartz in New York and from Harrods every time I went. Did it for several years. Anyway, by then the kids rage was all 'Transformers' and 'Monsters in Your Pocket.' He showed absolutely no interest in the metal soldiers at all ...so, they're still packed up here, never taken out of their boxes.

I guess they'll be appreciated one day. The poor scan here is from a set of the Queen trooping the colours.

Wombat

20-03-2009, 05:45

Kookaburra, I noticed the name dropping "Harrods", and you still have the cavalry in their original box. I never kept the boxes for mine, they have got lost over time.

I know what you mean about collecting from all over the world. Here are a few plates I have gathered on my travels that have a nautical theme.

Wombat,
(James).

kookaburra

20-03-2009, 08:41

Kookaburra, I noticed the name dropping "Harrods", and you still have the cavalry in their original box. I never kept the boxes for mine, they have got lost over time.

Wombat,
(James).

Haha. actually a bit hard to avoid James - this is the back of that very same Britains metal model soldiers box. Lovely building, still owned by that Saudi I think.

Your plates are beautiful - particularly the Captain Cook 'discovery' of Australia plate - even if he was quite a late-comer in fact!

Long ago, when I first bought our house here I ordered a Franklin Mint set of plates, Peter Barnett's 'Scenes of the English' countyside - also quite lovely, but I find them hard to place around the house now.

P.S. I have an original Dutch map that precedes Captain Cook - but I must admit, the East Coast is blank.

astraltrader

20-03-2009, 18:15

Its OK James - I took it as a bit of fun - hence the smiley at the end of the post - you swine!!:eek:

Wombat

21-03-2009, 04:27

Here are a few more pieces from the collection.

1.
Centre: The MAINE Cape Badge as displayed with some other Boer War Medallions. The small medallion on the ribbon for the cape badge is a Peace Medal S.A 1900.

Top left: Orphan & Widows Fund Medallion (Silver). Issued by The Daily Mail. 1899-1900.

Top Right & Bottom: Left: Obverse & Reverse. American Ladies Hospital Ship Fund. Issued to help raise funds to convert and equip the Hospital Ship Maine. 1899.

Bottom Right: Orphan & Widows Fund Medallion (Bronze). Issued by The Daily Mail. 1899-1900.

2.
Meerschaum Pipe (HMS Powerful). To Commemorate the Defence of Ladysmith by the crew of HMS Powerful. 1900.

3.
Close up of the sailors head showing the HMS Powerful Cap Tally.
I picked this up in one of those “Aladdin’s Caves” full of treasure. :D :D I was in the middle of nowhere outback Queensland; Esk for those who know the area. The last thing I expected to find was an Antique shop. I was even more amazed when I got inside and saw this little gem sitting in the cabinet. (He still knew what it was worth though). :( Like ALL Antique dealers he was a lovely man to deal with.;)

4. My cabinet of models relating to my medical theme of collecting.

5. Close up of the nursing figures.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

21-03-2009, 06:10

Kevin Denlay

21-03-2009, 23:02

Some interesting items there folks.

Especially like the plates that Wombat posted. Very very nice!

Now re filters' for cameras Beca.

If you have one of the, shall we say 'pocket' digital cameras, it is highly unlikely it will 'accept' a filter, although some do have a thread around the lens to screw onto, but not many.

However, it is what is known as a Polarizing filter (not UV) that takes the glare off glass, water, etc, but it would again be highly unlikely they make them for the pocket size digitals (although they do for some small size video camera lens's). However any of the full size SLR type digitals they can be bought for and it is one of the few filters I use religiously in my almost forty years of photography. They are especially useful on bright sunny days also.

Of course, if you are using a flash then besides getting at an acute angle to the glass, only Photoshop (or a similar program) will take away the glare/reflection.:)

Following info from that not always to be trusted site Wiki (but this time they have down well). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_filter

Polarizing filter. Used both in color and black and white photography, can be used to darken overly light skies. Because the clouds are relatively unchanged, the contrast between the clouds and the sky is increased. Atmospheric haze and reflected sunlight are also reduced, and in color photographs overall color saturation is increased. Polarizers are often used to deal with situations involving reflections, such as those involving water or glass, including pictures taken through glass windows (this uses the phenomenon of Brewster's angle).

The benefits of polarizing filters are largely unaffected by the move to digital photography: though software post-processing can simulate many other types of filter, most of the optical effects of controlling polarization at the time of capture (particularly where reflections are involved) simply cannot be replicated in software.

See Photo attached: On the bottom you can see how the window is reflecting the outside environment, while on the top the filter is turned 90° making it possible to see through the window.

UV filters are used to reduce haziness created by ultraviolet light. A UV filter is mostly transparent to visible light, and can be left on the lens for nearly all shots. UV filters are often used for lens protection, much like clear filters. A strong UV filter, such as a Haze-2A or UV17, cuts off some visible light in the violet part of the spectrum, and so has a pale yellow color; these strong filters are more effective at cutting haze, and can reduce purple fringing in digital cameras. Strong UV filters are also sometimes used for warming color photos taken in shade with daylight-type film.

Kevin Denlay

22-03-2009, 00:05

And to add to the plates theme, a few I have.

The plate the name cannot be seen on is the famous Flying Cloud.

(Taken using a pocket digital, so no filter).

Wombat

22-03-2009, 01:48

Kevin,

Nice plates, Are they set into a wooden surround?

Wombat,
(James)

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

22-03-2009, 19:43

Thank you all for the info on filters. My camera does not have a fitting to allow for filters to be attached. It is a very small Japanese camera, engineered like a jewel I must admit, and I am still coming to grips with the wonders of digital photography and all that can be achieved.
The plates are great and this site obviously has untouched potential.

Wombat

22-03-2009, 21:09

Beca I am sure you are right, lots of potential out there, so come on members start sharing your little treasures.

Here is one I have had for many years, My Pirate Bulldog who plays "For he's a jolly good fellow". He did have the Pirate Captains Hat with the Skull & Cross Bones, but i'm affraid that became a casualtie when our son was learning to walk, 26 years ago!!

MRS Wombat,
(Iris).

MartinH-K

22-03-2009, 22:43

Great thread this! I've allready said elsewhere about the teak table made from HMS Powerful's deck planking... All my dad's stuff was donated to the naval museum somewhere (Portsmouth?)
BTW Quote... "P.S. There are times when the only difference between being at sea and being in jail is that at sea your cell goes up and down and makes you sick!" Having been in the Probation Service and visited prisoners, depending on your cell mates, there may not be as much difference as you think...:o

Kevin Denlay

22-03-2009, 23:18

James, re your question, yes my plates have wooden frames surrounding them.

Wombat

23-03-2009, 04:11

Here's another assortment.

Wombat,
(James).

Wombat

23-03-2009, 04:28

In the spitit of trying to encourage a few more to post pictures,:) I have dug out 4 more that I particularly like.
The first three are Royal Marine, the third is just one of those female things. Well it is a boat!:D:D

We have been to the Royal Marine Museum at Southsea lots of times, and we got the bear for our son from the museum. We were just taking a photograph of our son stood at the entrance holding the bear when the curator walked passed. He turned to James and said, "Thats the job, get them interested young enough and they will come back later".;)

MRS Wombat,
(Iris).

astraltrader

23-03-2009, 16:34

James - the brass 1914 chocolate box [third from left] which from memory was donated from Princess Alexandria, also was issued containing tobacco.

Wombat

23-03-2009, 21:51

Terry,
There were several different contents for these boxes.
The one I had contained a pencil and paper for writing home, and as you say a lot had tobacco and cigarettes.
There were even two types of the Boer War example, the other is slightly smaller and more square in shape, and if I remember correctly the chocolate was supplied by Rowntrees. Most were sent home un opened.

Wombat,
(James).

astraltrader

24-03-2009, 18:13

Absolutely correct James.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

24-03-2009, 19:26

39900Here are some ships in bottles again. Put up mainly to show size comparisons, i.e. actual size of bottles against a recognisable background. One more just for fun. No more to follow!

kookaburra

26-03-2009, 06:08

Now these would be quite nice...

I don't own any of them ... but I do own the book: Evelyn Berckman's The Hidden Navy, Hamish Hamilton, London (1973).

kookaburra

26-03-2009, 17:33

Bone models by Napoleonic Prisoners of War

During the Napoleonic Wars tens of thousands of French captives were shipped to Britain and housed in appalling conditions on prison hulks in the Thames and around the Channel Ports.

With as many as 72,000 arriving in one year, overcrowding reached the stage of impossibility, and between 1796 and 1812 new prisons were built - first at Norman Cross (near Peterborough), then Dartmoor, and at Perth.

Among the conditions allowed was that the men, both sailors and soldiers, were allowed to engage in manufacturing of wares sold to locals at well-guarded markets. And from this provision, in the most dire conditions, there emerged an extraordinary flowering of continental craftwork flooding Britain.

They used the materials at hand. The bones of bullocks slaughtered for their food, and split straw from materials provided for their bedding. In its highest forms, the bone ships, models could take years to complete, and were more labours of love than anything. One man refused release when the Treaty of Amiens was signed because his ship model was not complete.

The pictures below (from a 1981 antiques magazine issue, article by Sally Kevill-Davies) include two of the finest examples. Hope you enjoy looking at them.

And my next post will include even more extraordinary ship models of another kind.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

26-03-2009, 17:57

Fabulous! I will eagerly await more pictures from you, please A.S.A.P.

This really IS a very interesting subject. Who could ever get tired of seeing really great models?

kookaburra

27-03-2009, 04:17

Fabulous! I will eagerly await more pictures from you, please A.S.A.P.

This really IS a very interesting subject. Who could ever get tired of seeing really great models?

Great Colin. Just give me an hour or two to get my next post on ship models ready. Meantime, I was interested in your work station with the lovely 'Port of Bideford' in a bottle.

Here's my cluttered little corner of the world (second pic) and where this post is coming from - my study (take no notice of the guitar, 1961 Harmony H75, propped up on the side desk for another reason).

Hmmm, I'd better find something more nautical to carry this post while I work on 'Nefs' (old French word for 'ship,' and grand models used as table settings by the aristocracy).

Well, here's a medallion marking the Duke of Edinburgh's visit to Australia on HMS Galatea in 1867.

kookaburra

27-03-2009, 05:53

As mentioned in the preceding post, 'Nef' is the old French word for ship, and came to be applied to ship models made in precious metals, usually on wheeled mountings, and used by the European aristocracy as table settings. Symbolizing good fortune in weathering the storms of life, some date back to the 1600s.

By tradition the 'Nef' was placed in front of the king or a prince, to distinguish him from the other guests at table you see...

I thought these examples were extraordinary. Most of the photos - those with captions - are more than 60 years old. They are from the Country Life magazine's annual of Christmas 1949, with an article by G. Bernard Hughes. (1949 was still a dark year for many other in Britain I think). Still, what's lovely remain lovely in all eras.

Just for an idea of values, the silver Dutch Nef (pic 8) was offered on a site recently for 2,250 pounds. Some I think would fetch a good deal more. I do hope you enjoy viewing these.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

27-03-2009, 07:28

Yep, as expected, interesting pictures. Your workstation also looks interesting and I could not help noticing that there are some impressive looking certificates you have there.
Astraltrader (i.e. Terry) of this site will be I am sure be equally as interested in your pictures, he being an antique dealer.
Well done!

Jan Steer

28-03-2009, 15:48

The 1914 tin contained cigarettes and tobacco and was a gift from Mary. Her sepia photograph was enclosed within. I still have my grandfather's tin and her photo is still inside.

regards
Jan

NSR

28-03-2009, 17:18

Not quite a collector's item but a print that I saw many years ago but couldn't afford. About five years ago I came across a postcard version and bought it. The artist was Jan Sanders, a Dutchman, and he produced a number of prints with a nautical theme. This one was called 'The Masterpiece'.

Ken

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

28-03-2009, 19:18

Ken
This Is A Terrific Picture And Thank You For Putting It Up. I Laughed Out Loud When I Saw This One And It Has Gone Straight Into My 'saved' File.
Regards,
Colin

DAVIDJM

07-04-2009, 09:15

my prize collection is a book 2.5 inches long by 2 inches wide by 1 inch thick which is about the sinking of HMS ROYAL GEORGE in 1782 (ish) the book cover is made from the wood from the ship printed in 1842

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

07-04-2009, 10:41

John Odom

07-04-2009, 11:42

I have a USN Hamilton Chronometer watch from 1943, and a pair of USN Bausch and Lomb binoculars from 1941. The pinoculars were recovered from a barrel of scrap metal when they closed the optical shop at Mare Island shipyard. The binoculars were full of sea water. I cleaned them and bebuilt them including recementing the lenses, and now use them every day for bird watching.

BECA@CLEAR.NET.NZ

07-04-2009, 20:56

kookaburra

14-05-2009, 14:27

Naval song scores. Harry Dacre was a British composer whom in 1892 wrote a hit song variously called 'Daisy Bell,' 'Daisy,' or perhaps best remembered as ...'A Bicycle Built For Two.'

My Dad used to sing it. Here's another Dacre hit with a naval theme ...I seem to know that refrain, 'It's The Navy, The British Navy,' and they seem to have adapted the front cover Down Under to appeal to Australian and NZ warblers.

EDIT: Just thinking, I believe that camp dress-up 1980s group, The Village People, might have revived this song, no?

Wombat

16-05-2009, 00:29

Kookaburra,

My mother used to drive me mad singing the very same song all the time when I was growing up.

Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do,
I’m half crazy all for the love of you,
It won’t be a stylish marriage; I can’t afford a carriage,
But you’ll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle made for two.

The sad thing is, I had forgotten about this, but since reading your post I seem to have turned into my mother :o :o :o I can't seem to stop singing it myself. POOR JAMES!

Now all I need is for him to start singing "In the Navy", that's no so much the problem, but I am a little concerned as to what he will choose as his outfit :D :D

Mrs Wombat,
(Iris).

sparkie2182

16-05-2009, 22:08

a small section of my nautical collection..........

they are presentation gifts to various Navy and Governmental officers and are from.........

left to right.........

Korea

Barbados

Thailand

Argentina

France

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

i will post more if anyone is interested.

sumochipmonk

22-07-2009, 13:41

While clearing my late Father-in-Laws house. I came across a wooden pen tray which a had a small brass plate on it stating '' From the Teak of H.M.S. Iron Duke Admiral Jellicoe's Flag Ship Jutland 1916. It is currently sitting on my coffee table gathering dust I am considering whether to send it to the current Iron Duke for their Trophy Cabinet

astraltrader

22-07-2009, 16:00

Sounds like a nice gesture!

Batstiger

22-07-2009, 16:36

Post 44 reminded me of a piece of teak I had stowed away in my ditty box. This was from HMS Valiant, Jutland 1916. See pic.

Regards, Bob.

Fairlead

22-07-2009, 16:55

Ditty Box - now there is an old item that is worth keeping your eye out for
Do you have a photo of yours bob?

I have the end of a 4.5 shell case with a Falklands Crown set in the middle that I made on the way home, a Battenburg (speed/times/course calculator), and a Ross single pull telescope (which I covered and used as OOW/OOD), and an old (Cruiser) HMS LONDON, copper ash tray.

Fairlead

mike d

26-07-2009, 16:53

James, I loved the pics of your collection! I liked the military ambulances in particular as my mother drove one during the Blitz!

ceylon220

15-08-2009, 17:13

Anyone know where I can get a RN car badge,tried everywhere ,e bay only had a RNA on offer?

Big Al

11-09-2009, 18:49

Just started collecting the Atlas Edition Famous Warships of WW2, they are very detailed models and worth collection and as it is in association with the RBL I dont mind.So far collected Hood, Bismark,Sharnhorst, Yamato, Prince of Wales, Ark Royal, Missouri, and Admiral Graf Spee promises to be a good collection . www.atlaseditions.co.uk

Wombat

11-09-2009, 23:20

They look like very nice models, if they ever include a Hospital Ship please let me know.

Wombat,
(James).

Big Al

13-09-2009, 18:52

Wombat will do, but like all these collections they never let you know in advance what's to come.

Wombat

14-09-2009, 04:56

Wombat will do, but like all these collections they never let you know in advance what's to come.

Thanks, thats OK as it takes quite a while for the UK magazines to arrive in our Newsagents out here anyway. All I need is the issue number and date to order.

Thanks again,
Wombat,
James.