HMS Jersey

[AlZictorini]

The Battleships-Cruisers.co.uk web site displays the picture below at http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/j+k_class.htm . The picture is labelled as follows:

This would appear to be when HMS Jersey set off a mine in the Humber, 10th October 1940.

This is not a J+K Class Destroyer, its something older. Does anyone have any idea who she really is?

[Alan B]

I think she could be HMS Pheasant, a WW1 3 funnel Destroyer mined 1917.
The tugs around her look WW1 vintage too.

[AlZictorini]

Good Spot

I can see where you’re coming from Alan, but I can't find Pheasant (an Admiralty M Class Destroyer) listed as ever displaying the Pendant F72. She sank wearing the Pendant G89 and her previous Pendent was G74. I also think it’s a WWI Destroyer.
On checking WWI Destroyers that did display the Pendant F72, two came up. HMS Tarpon was the first to wear it from Jan 1917 until Jan 1918. The Pendant was next handed over to HMS Tempest, which she displayed until after the War (but more than likely changing to a H Pendant soon after). Both of these ships were Admiralty R Class Destroyers (also three funnelers). I think our mystery ship is one of the above, but which one?

Do you have any histories of the above two Destroyers Alan, did one get damaged enough to gain a list and require a tug home?

The search continues…………….

[Alan B]

Got it!
Go to
www.gwpda.org
Type Tempest in search box
Follow it through and there we are.
HMS Tempest F72

[AlZictorini]

Are you looking at the pic of Tempest dropping mines. Still doesnt count out Tarpon in our pic. They both had the Pendant at different times, come on Allan.......Try Harder

[Alan B]

All I can find apart from the photo of Tempest dropping deph charges is, Tarpon F65 was used as a minelayer and in 1918 was with the 20th Destroyer Flotilla based at Immingham.
Perhaps Tarpon dropped a mine, went into reverse and got her own back:confused::eek: It wouldn't be the first time.

Alan

[AlZictorini]

Quite possible shipmate. For now I think we can only agree that the picture in question is of an Admiralty R Class Destroyer of WWI origins not HMS Jersey, a J+K Class Destroyer of WWII as described.

Over to you KC for picture re-allocation.

[tonclass]

Strange one this, as my records have her as TARPON not TEMPEST ?????

[AlZictorini]

tonclass

Please explain more?

Having checked British Warships 1914-19 (F.J.Dittmar & J.J Colledge 1972) the pendant number for Tarpon was F72, F22 & F79 only for the war years?

[tonclass]

AlZictorini,

not having the benefit of the book you mentioned, it would appear that you are correct regarding the pic. My source was from Clydesite.
It does get confusing when trying to file photo's now knowing that the same Pennant numbers were issued to different ships of the same class. Will ammend my records accordingly.
Cheers
Rik

[stontamar]

Hi AlZ - as posted elsewhere the destroyer in the photgraph is HMS TARPON which was also an Admiralty 'R' Class. She was launched in March 1917 and completed as a minelayer. In June 1917 she was mined off Dunkirk and towed to that port for repairs which took 6 months to complete. The photograph appears to show this event. She was eventually sold for scrap to Cashmore on 4 August 1927

Hope this helps.

Regards

Dave - stontamar

[AlZictorini]

Nice Work Dave

Your information does add up quite nicely and thanks also for the info on Bedouin. I think this is another one for picture re-allocation. Over to you kc..

[kc]

Thanks

I have been following what you have been saying on this thread and I will make the necessary updates for the next time we upload the site.

We don't update the naval history sites more than once every few weeks in the run up to Christmas (for us that is anytime from end of September!) due to being extremely busy with our commercial sites, but I will make a point to get the images relocated for the next upload.

[jbryce1437]

I have a version of this photo with the name HMS TARPON written on the bottom

[Batstiger]

Jim, I too have the same pic with the caption "Tarpon, built by John Brown as an 'R' and completed in 1917 is shown limping into port on the 14th July 1917 after striking a mine off Dunkirk. The damage was so extensive that she was in dockyard hands for almost six months."
I also got this pic off the Clydebank warships which shows another pennant No. and gives a brief history.