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Batstiger
01-04-2008, 10:49
If you ex Matelots want a nostalgic trip have a look at this lot:-

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I think it is better to stick with your memories!

Bob.

CYLLA
01-04-2008, 17:30
BATSTIGER,
THANKS for that thread ,yep it did bring back the memories [hangovers]

a bottle of cheap plonk,got a glass :p cheer,s


cylla

BuntingBob
01-04-2008, 23:23
Some fine pictures there. Those of the empty street look like they did many years ago, in the day time. Same peeling paint walls. But, what a tranformation at night. It was a mucky, smelly place but to us thirsty matelots it was a 'Mecca.'

TACKLINE
24-04-2008, 21:41
Thanks for those photographs Bob. Took me back to wartime days. I wonder if anyone remembers "The Lucky Wheel" bar down the gut,with resident " Singers" Bobby and Sugar. Blokes of course! Went there on holiday in '86,but the thoroughfare ,although still there,all the bars and "characters" had gone. All the bomb damage had gone,except for one building in Valetta,which had been left wrecked as a kind of memorial. I enjoyed my return very much.
A couple of snaps taken at the time. My late wife with some residents of "The Gut".
Alan.

NSR
16-05-2008, 21:13
Memories from the Egyptian Queen at the top to the AM Twink and the Galvanised Donkey (Morning Star and the Silver Stallion) at the bottom, via The New Life, The New York, The Cotton Club, The Cricketers and who can forget Charlie's Bar. Charlie standing outside and shouting, 'Inside Navy, all your ship's company here, both of them p****d'. Happy daze.

MelQuick
07-04-2010, 09:02
Hi Everyone

I go down there once a year to pay my annual house insurance!

Mel

oldsalt
07-04-2010, 17:58
No one has yet mentioned the B&B's, like Jim Irish's splendid establishment.;)

alanandbren
07-04-2010, 18:03
No one has yet mentioned the B&B's, like Jim Irish's splendid establishment.;)

What about this one Keith.

steve roberts
07-04-2010, 18:42
I can Well remember going down there,but blowed if I remember coming out most of the time.I was going out with a girl from Mosta,while at Bighi.She had to be home by nine pm,so after seeing her safely on her bus at the bus station.It was only a hop-skip-and a jump to Strait street.:D
Regards Steve.

alanandbren
07-04-2010, 19:41
No one has yet mentioned the B&B's, like Jim Irish's splendid establishment.;)

I can Well remember going down there,but blowed if I remember coming out most of the time.I was going out with a girl from Mosta,while at Bighi.She had to be home by nine pm,so after seeing her safely on her bus at the bus station.It was only a hop-skip-and a jump to Strait street.:D
Regards Steve.

How the hell did you manage to date a local girl Steve. When I was there they all used to be locked indoors or hidden under those black outfits where as you could not get a decent shufftie at them.

steve roberts
07-04-2010, 20:22
Hi Alanandbren.She had been a pen-pal for a couple of years(me being of a devious crafty so and so) I had to meet her with a chaperon for a few weeks,until I got "Up Homers" and met Mum,Dad and Local Priest.Having them then decide that I was a "Decent Upstanding" young man,and of course being Medical Branch helped.I was then permitted to meet her alone,on the condition I never took her to a Bar,and that she must be home by nine pm.Believe me that early was frustrating for both of us!!!:D She wanted to marry me,but I did not fancy having the entire family move in with us when we got back to the UK.So it sort of faded out after 18 months.(Phew!!!)
Regards Steve.

RonHowell
07-04-2010, 22:56
What about 'Dirty Dicks' at the top, the 'Bing Crosby' of course, and the 'Gypo Queen'. However when I was on a run we started at the 'Britannia' then worked our way to 'the gut'. Great memories, especially great shipmates.

Ron

alanandbren
08-04-2010, 07:03
What about 'Dirty Dicks' at the top, the 'Bing Crosby' of course, and the 'Gypo Queen'. However when I was on a run we started at the 'Britannia' then worked our way to 'the gut'. Great memories, especially great shipmates.

Ron

Hi Ron, was that the Britania at the foot of Manoel island bridge, or valletta. we used to visit a restaurant in Valletta called the Britannia wich served a wicked steak egg and chips,pancake and a bottle of blue label for 2/6. another eating house down the Gut was Chico's, also good when you were ratted as you didn't look too carefully at what was on your plate. I dont think he ditched any leavings from previous customers. does anyone remember the sandwich stall at the foot of barracca lift, great for a steak or egg sarnie on the way back on board, also for duty boats crew on the liberty run,taking orders back for the crew. Enclosed a few pic's and one which will settle a few arguments as to how many bottles were drunk in Tonys bar.
Regards Alan.

alanandbren
08-04-2010, 07:08
What about 'Dirty Dicks' at the top, the 'Bing Crosby' of course, and the 'Gypo Queen'. However when I was on a run we started at the 'Britannia' then worked our way to 'the gut'. Great memories, especially great shipmates.

Ron

as stated in previous post the pic's

RonHowell
08-04-2010, 11:48
Hi AlanBren

The establishment opposite the Maneol Island bridge was the 'Bamboo', great run ashore. I remember when the 'Ausonia' / 'Rampura' sailed for exercises the Bamboo was full of Navy wives possibly starting off a glut of 'affairs'.
The Britannia was just off the then 'Kingsway' near the cinema, I remember you had to go downstairs to the bar situated at one end, there was also a balcony all the way round. From there a short stagger across Kingsway down a side street and there was the 'Gut'.
I was there in 1987 and felt quite sad walking down 'Strait Street', what memories.

Ron

alanandbren
08-04-2010, 13:56
Thats the Britannia I'm thinking of. I believe it had red leather seating, but I know you went downstairs, Great times in those days, THere'll never be another Malta.

Dave Hutson
08-04-2010, 18:38
Hi AlanBren

The establishment opposite the Maneol Island bridge was the 'Bamboo', great run ashore. I remember when the 'Ausonia' / 'Rampura' sailed for exercises the Bamboo was full of Navy wives possibly starting off a glut of 'affairs'.
The Britannia was just off the then 'Kingsway' near the cinema, I remember you had to go downstairs to the bar situated at one end, there was also a balcony all the way round. From there a short stagger across Kingsway down a side street and there was the 'Gut'.
I was there in 1987 and felt quite sad walking down 'Strait Street', what memories.

Ron

Hi Ron and sorry mate - The bar right opposite as you came off Manoel Island Bridge was the "Britannia" run by Yorkie, you had to go right one street and up a few yards to reach the "Bamboo". Now the Brit was used by all the Lascaris boys, the MFCDT, the Minesweeper boys,Woodbridge Haven. STC and Ausonia. Yorkie could always be relied upon to run the "pawn" shop on blank weeks when you put your watch over the bar and redeemed it on payday. [Altho' we all 'ad and 'ee knew two watches - I think my second one is still there somewhere].

Not a lot of single guys used the "Bamboo" in 58/59 because it was usually the haunt of the Minesweeper Squadron, and most guys didn't want to get into aggro with anything that "absence" produced if you get my meaning. Nuff sed.

This all comes back from 1954/57 Destroyers, 1958/59 Phoenicia [Lascaris W/T].

There was a Britannia in Kingsway just past the Govt Building on the right off a little garden area where you went downstairs to it, and if you came out turned right, crossed Kingsway and took the first left you ended up with the Toilets on your left [with Tiny the Cop standing outside] and the Gypo Queen on your right.

Howzat for 52 years search of the memory cells ?????

Dave H

Dave Hutson
08-04-2010, 18:41
I can Well remember going down there,but blowed if I remember coming out most of the time.I was going out with a girl from Mosta,while at Bighi.She had to be home by nine pm,so after seeing her safely on her bus at the bus station.It was only a hop-skip-and a jump to Strait street.:D
Regards Steve.

Hey Stevie Boy. I hope that wasn't my landlord's daughter cos' she was a nice girl and I hate to think what could have transpired if she was conned by some sickbay tiffy. We all knew that shirt buttons weren't "The pill".

Dave H

Dave Hutson
08-04-2010, 18:47
Now I have your attention and I have asked this before - does anyone remember "Chez Venci's" in Floriana - great food but an arm and a leg in the 50's. Also does anyone remember the Bar/Restaurant - into Kingsway second turning on left opposite the Port Library - Tony the Head Waiter could go round a table of 24 where everyone ordered a different drink or cocktail [no pad], come back and put your drink in front of you. The rainbow cocktail was poured layer for layer and you could, very carefully, drink layer for layer. Tony called you a Philistine pillock if you picked it up and disturbed the layers. But what a way to get sozzled on payday.

Put your thinking caps on Lascaris people and come up with the answer.

No prizes - just memories.

Dave H

RonHowell
08-04-2010, 21:09
Hi Dave
Spot on with your memories, I knew the Bamboo was not far from the bridge. I am glad the Britannia was pretty much where I imagined it was. We forget its over fifty years since we ' tripped the light fantastic' through the streets of Malta. And yes 'Tiny' the policeman outside the toilets, I can see him now.

Ron

Derek Dicker
09-04-2010, 09:49
Mng Guys,

Here's one of the Gypo Queen, sad to see in that state.


Derek (Bunts)

alanandbren
09-04-2010, 11:02
Mng Guys,

Here's one of the Gypo Queen, sad to see in that state.


Derek (Bunts)

The last photo I took in 2007 of her, she still had all the glass in one piece. Don't these people know what the're doing to our Naval history.

Alan Markland
29-01-2011, 15:22
I was a features writer for the Maltese Sunday Circle for a couple of years and did an article on The Gut based on my RN memories of the 50' - 70's visits. Doing the research in 1996 at the age 60 odd I walked down the deserted street with my daughter in law on my arm. She was heavily pregnant. An old woman passed us by heavily laden with shopping. She eyed us both up and then said to me 'still at I see!' Turned out she'd been a 'dancing girl,' at the Gypo Queen in 1957 and swore she remembered me!

I am still doing articles and have in mind one on 'women connected to the RN' (see my Thread elsewhere on this site.) But while I am here does anyone recall the actual Sparrow? the one who married a Chief Stoker/threw herself off the Barracca Lift/ Emigrated to Australia or whatever? and what about Molly, the Mullatto lady who sang, when pissed on seven eleven perfume and meths, that lovely song 'Seventeen,' she had a mate aqbout three foot tall with hair all down her back who was said to be one of the Romanoffs and danced the seven veils. Bobby of course was a Greek not Maltese and played beautiful piano. He emigrated to Guzz in the 60's and appeared at the Polish Club in Devonport. Later he became the mascot of the Old Illustrious Soc. which is when I re-met him. I gave him my address in Senglea Malta which turned out to be his home when he was a lad.

Mitch Hinde
29-01-2011, 15:32
Now I have your attention and I have asked this before - does anyone remember "Chez Venci's" in Floriana - great food but an arm and a leg in the 50's. Also does anyone remember the Bar/Restaurant - into Kingsway second turning on left opposite the Port Library - Tony the Head Waiter could go round a table of 24 where everyone ordered a different drink or cocktail [no pad], come back and put your drink in front of you. The rainbow cocktail was poured layer for layer and you could, very carefully, drink layer for layer. Tony called you a Philistine pillock if you picked it up and disturbed the layers. But what a way to get sozzled on payday.

Put your thinking caps on Lascaris people and come up with the answer.

No prizes - just memories.

Dave H

Hi Dave H
Chez Venzi.

Under the arches on the left in Floriana going towards Valletta. As you say,
best steak in the Med but pricey. Last time I was there was 1963.:eek:

Mitch Hinde

RonHowell
29-01-2011, 20:46
Another memory I have as an 18 year old EM2 in 1956 on the 'Corunna' was an old 'crone' doing magical things with a bottle of Blue at the bottom of the Gut. After a whip round she produced the exhibition to the shocked audience of so called experienced 'men'. I now shiver at the thought of it, anyone else remember her?

Ron

Alan Markland
30-01-2011, 16:08
What about this one Keith.

Just up from the Bing Crosby on the left hand side. You got your shoes cleaned and a glass of sticky tea thrown in. Alan

Alan Markland
30-01-2011, 16:13
Yes I do and I once saw one of our killick stokers drink from the bottle post enactment. Alan.

Dave Hutson
30-01-2011, 16:15
Yes I do and I once saw one of our killick stokers drink from the bottle post enactment. Alan.

What else would you expect from a member of the Black Gang. :confused:

Alan Markland
30-01-2011, 16:27
About the Brit. There were two. The one in Valletta where the Gharry horses stood, downstairs as has already been mentioned. Red leather seating and gentlemen waiters. They used to do tea dances in the 50's, popular with married accompanied's.

The other Brit is in Gzira at Manoel Island Bridge. Run by Yorky in the Ranpura days and still popular but with oilmen in 1985 - 90 when it was run by his widow and her two sons. The Bamboo was neaby and owned (in 1957) by the Messina Bros. of East End inafamy. Another favourite near there was Jacks Bar - the only one open on the death of Pope Pius 12. - and The Brown Jug, a comms. pub. (Not to be confused with the Little Brown Jug in Floriana.)

But who remembers the Barbary Coast and the Black Cat. The Manchester - still going but as pizza take-aways now. I was on Daring and Meon both tied up in the Creek and within easy swimming back distance from shore. Alan.

Dave Hutson
30-01-2011, 16:33
All remembered , altho I had forgotten "The Brown Jug" , If you look in the Brit, Gzira you will probably still find my second watch hanging behind the bar waiting for me to redeem it. The "Bamboo" was also a popular haunt for Comms [Lascaris living in Phoencia] , MFCDT and the 108th Minesweepers.

You forgot the "Cock and Bottle" ;)

Dave H

Alan Markland
30-01-2011, 16:53
Yet another on Malta! Scene: The Bing Crosby Bar at the bottom of the gut. I am a young stoker on loan to the Picket House, stood in my belt and gaiters, flanked by two hairy faced RPO's. Molly comes out of the pub, unsteady, a bottle of mixed seven eleven perfume and meths in her hand. She stops, eyes me up and down and then:

'Jesus Keerist! They done opened up a new box o' sailor boys! Oh! Ain't he pretty?' She strokes my blushing cheek.
'Bugger off Molly' snarls a regulator.

'So purty!' an' now listen up little sailor boy. While you down the Gut - Keep your big eyes open, your big mouth shut. Your hand on yo' ha'penny an' you be all shook up!'

I never saw her again until about 1982 when I heard she was in what used to be the King George the Fifth Hospital for Sailors up Crucifix Hill.

'She's away with the fairies,' a nurse told me kindly. So I sat by her bed and reminded her about Minko and Bobbie and the Russian Princess and the girl saxaphonist who got left behind by the Ivy Benson's Band and I hummed her song 'Seventeen, seventeen - prettiest girl I ever seen... I think she smiled. Alan.

Alan Markland
30-01-2011, 18:55
Yet another. I should do this for a living! Tony's Bar at Sleima Ferry. main clientelle HMS Woodbridge and the Sweepers. Had a mirror over the urinal in the gents which did remarkable things for your masculinity. And the Kiosk across the road, now a thriving restaurant, behind which the Magic Stick Picture House stood. Woolworths on the corner was still there in 1985. And what about the Primrose Bar at Guardamanjia, named after the one time Commander of HMS Forth which tied up there for years. You got a lot of WRNS in there from Whitehall Mansions at Ta'x'biex and if you slipped the sweeper in the periscope workshop half a tot he'd let you have a squint through an attack periscope at the said WRNS sunbathing. I mentioned this at my local RNA the other day and a lady member told me that she and her mates knew all about it and would put on an innocent but revealing show for us.

Floriana and the Klondyke Tabarin which, having a full band, was able to charge threepence extra for its Marsovin (ambit, or skreech.) The Flagship was next door and I once got Stan Mathew's autograph there after a game Sliema v Floriana. (I think he played for one or the other.) Go on, stir my memory! Alan.

exile1
31-01-2011, 09:30
After your time Alan I suspect but a dit from a combined ops mate on another site when coincidently talking about Strait St.

"Quote"
The only "battle of Malta" I recall was in the autumn of 1974 when based in St George's Barracks (named after me!) and prior to a 3 Commando Brigade's amphibious deployment to the eastern Mediterranean. UK-based 40 Commando Group came ashore off the Bulwark into Paceville which was the entertainment area close to the barracks and where several hundred Libyans lived. A fracas saw one of the Marines stabbed and ended in a massive riot with the Booties of both 40 and 41 (the resident commando in St Andrews) plus some of the battery boys involved in street battles particularly around the Cable and Wireless premises, which wrecked the area. The Maltese police and Libyans were surrounded and ambushed as the squaddies moved them into untenable positions and submitted them to severe beatings. The shore patrols from Bulwark, Hermes, Intrepid, the escort vessels, RMP police, RAF police from Luqa eventually restored law and order and 40's men were rushed back to the Rusty B. The sailing of the Task Force was brought forward to an unearthly hour as 41 Commando and the Battery were recalled to barracks for an early departure. A dozen ships (big in those days) sailed out of Grand Harbour without ceremony and when we returned six weeks later it was all quiet on the island. The Libyans stayed well clear of the squaddie bars and the police were rarely seen in Paceville. Mind you there were many good coppers particularly those who used to drink in the Hole in the Wall in Sliema. Many hated Mintoff and his collaboration with Gaddafi which left a bad taste in the mouths of the majority of Maltese people. Been back to Malta a couple of times and still a lovely island with plenty of good memories.
George "Unquote"

exile1
14-02-2011, 19:25
Took the missus and her mate down the gut one morning a few years ago to show her that it was quite civilised and nothing happened when I went away. Sat her ouside the London bar, bought her a goffa and took the following pic. being an ex-Jenny it didn't wash of course:o

barracuda
14-02-2011, 22:18
Here's a link to a very interesting YouTube video of Centaur at Malta in 1959. It was filmed by a FAA officer but does have some footage of "The Gut".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glLP_Nqpo-o

He took a whole series of films of places Centaur visited in 1959. Just search for Centaur 1959 at YouTube.



Hope this hasn't been posted previously - did a search and nothing came up. Apologies if it has.

Peter

Nobby_N
24-02-2011, 21:29
In '56, at the very bottom of Strait St, across the road and facing the street there was a bar that some of us from Bulwark always used. It wasn't like the bars further up the street, nothing naughty in there - unless drinking is naughty. They had a stack of records, 78s mainly and you could choose from them and put them on the record player yourself: there was loads of Dean Martin and Tennessee Ernie Ford mainly. Does anyone remember that bar and what it was called? I don't remember the name, I just remember the Dean Martins, and Imbit and Marsala. What was the girl behind the bar called? Mary I expect.

Another one, in 1956 matelots who'd been before were still talking about the Marines trashing the Gut from top to bottom and beating up the police. I never did find out what that was all about. Does anyone here know? It was sometime between the end of the War and the early 50s.

John (Nobby_N)

Mitch Hinde
24-02-2011, 22:11
Hi Nobby N

The only two at the bottom of the Gut that I remember were the Lancaster and the Bing Grosby. Ring any bells?

Mitch Hinde

Nobby_N
25-02-2011, 09:45
Thanks Mitch. Lancaster seems likely, my mind is a blank - must have been the Marsala. Bing Crosby was a year or two before Dean Martin I think :). Until recently I had not thought of that place at all, and then I discovered all the Dean Martin videos on Youtube. It brought it all back. I can see the place in my mind, my visual memory is not too bad, but the name had gone.

Nobby_N

MelQuick
25-02-2011, 15:52
The Maritime Museum, in what I understand used to be the Naval Bakery, has the front of one of the old Strait Street bars erected against one internal wall of the first floor.

The museum is well worth a visit. The exhibits are well laid out and they cover Malta's entire maritime history. There are many Royal Navy exhibits.

Mel

Thomas McSweeney
12-10-2011, 12:54
Hello Alan,
You know me for sure.
Molly has long passed away. Her singing was only matched by Joe Barrows when he sang 'Mammy". The Gut has long died and even the bars are gone. Smiling Prince, Retainer Bar, Piccadilly, Carmen Bar, Tic Tico and one others remain, but just the signs. The Wilson and Malta are now classy resaurants, old Charlie the tattoist has long become fertiliser. The Old Vic dancing hall is now a church store and the Gippo's sign fell and broke. But many of the girls, now old, grey, wrinkled and toothless are still there, as you've experianced when there. Only the latrine on the corner got a first class uplift and you have to pay to use it.
The old lodgings are now becoming high class insurance offices with lkifts, a/c's and the works, costing six figure jobs.
If you remeber Tony from Malata, he now does tours at the Lascaris War Rooms. Remember his mum, Josephine? Grey bun and all! A film-thin steak, two smiling eyes and a banger for 1/6d!!!!!!
There's a book out now on the Gut, but maybe in Maltese - STRADA STRETTA.
Long time since you gave talks at Bormla. Cheers.

josmamo
06-03-2012, 15:37
Hello

I am a Maltese national and am currently conducting research on Strait Street, known also as The Gut, in post-war Malta as part of my Mlitt Creative Writing course at the University of Glasgow.

In a thread on this forum, many of you recalled their times on the island, their runs ashore down The Gut. This project will focus on memories of the Street from a non-Maltese perspective and the final outcome will be a collection of creative retelling of the stories on an online website.

I am interested in both the big picture and the details: Tiny the cop, Sugar, the songs you’d hear, the trips back to the ship on the Maltese luzzu …anything you can recall and sounds interesting.

I’d like to hold a series of interviews in the coming weeks and am happy to do them via skype or in person in the Glasgow/Edinburgh area. If this is not convenient, I can always send out a questionnaire with the possibility of contacting the participants for further details.

I will duly acknowledge anyone who participates unless they wish to remain anonymous and will also show them the transcript before it goes online upon request. At the moment there are no plans to publish these in book form but it is not excluded if the right opportunity arises.

I am looking forward to learning new things about my country and those who shaped it. Your contribution or your help in reaching out to anyone who could, would be much appreciated. Please feel free to send me a private message on this site or post on this thread.


Best

Josianne Mamo

Polycell
06-03-2012, 17:37
I served on HMS Troubridge in 1963/1964. The ship was undergoing a refit in the dockyard.
We lived in HMS St Angelo for almost a year before moving across to the FAA Base at Hal Far.
We used to 'do' the gut about a couple of times a week as funds allowed.
We would usually start at the bottom in the England bar then across to the Bing Crosby and wend our way up the gut usually finishing off in the Gypo Queen or Galvinised donkey to listen and harangue Bobby the resident pianist.
Bobby lived I seem to remember on the St Angelo side of the harbour probably Conspicua (sorry about the spelling) and he would often share a dghajsa with him.
I remember our main drinks of choice down the gut were the two types of beer 'Blue' or Hop Leaf or a cheeky little wine called Marsavin accompanied with a bottle of seven up. Marsavin was 1/6 a bottle cannot remember what a bottle of beer was.
Our run ashore usually finished in Ben Marl's for big eats. Steak egg and chips being the favourite. The steak was usually about a quarter of an inch thick and you needed the jaw of an alligator with the teeth to match to make any sense of the steak.
As my memory returns I'll try and fill in some gaps.
Fred

josmamo
07-03-2012, 00:32
I served on HMS Troubridge in 1963/1964. The ship was undergoing a refit in the dockyard.
We lived in HMS St Angelo for almost a year before moving across to the FAA Base at Hal Far.
We used to 'do' the gut about a couple of times a week as funds allowed.
We would usually start at the bottom in the England bar then across to the Bing Crosby and wend our way up the gut usually finishing off in the Gypo Queen or Galvinised donkey to listen and harangue Bobby the resident pianist.
Bobby lived I seem to remember on the St Angelo side of the harbour probably Conspicua (sorry about the spelling) and he would often share a dghajsa with him.
I remember our main drinks of choice down the gut were the two types of beer 'Blue' or Hop Leaf or a cheeky little wine called Marsavin accompanied with a bottle of seven up. Marsavin was 1/6 a bottle cannot remember what a bottle of beer was.
Our run ashore usually finished in Ben Marl's for big eats. Steak egg and chips being the favourite. The steak was usually about a quarter of an inch thick and you needed the jaw of an alligator with the teeth to match to make any sense of the steak.
As my memory returns I'll try and fill in some gaps.
Fred

Hello Fred

Thank you for your reply.

I just had to smile at your steak-eating description. These are certainly the sort of details I'm looking for. Would you be willing to answer a few questions. I could do it via skype or post the questions online if that is more convenient for you. It might help get the memory wheels rolling.

Best

Josianne

Polycell
07-03-2012, 09:00
I'll answer question but don't do skype.
Ask them here.

Dave Hutson
07-03-2012, 09:17
Hi Josianne,

Thank you for your kind invitation - I agree with Fred. Having made your request on here you will find there is a wealth of information and memories of Malta which I am sure are about to start flowing in. Most will be true but a few will be embellished with "I think that was what happened" accounts. Good luck in your project and ask away.

If you do it on here one story will lead to another as old memories are recalled.

Dave H

Joseph Borda
07-03-2012, 09:37
Hi Josianne,

If you are looking for photos of the policemen that used to be on duty at Strait Street, I can help you !

Please let me know

Joe Borda

dayerb
07-03-2012, 10:50
Hi Josianne,
I Remember the steaks as well? sure they were horse or donkey meat
but still remember Malta fondly from my time there 1955/56 the gut was the place to go? but on my pay back then not to often,
Cheers Brian

alanandbren
07-03-2012, 10:57
Hello

I am a Maltese national and am currently conducting research on Strait Street, known also as The Gut, in post-war Malta as part of my Mlitt Creative Writing course at the University of Glasgow.

In a thread on this forum, many of you recalled their times on the island, their runs ashore down The Gut. This project will focus on memories of the Street from a non-Maltese perspective and the final outcome will be a collection of creative retelling of the stories on an online website.

I am interested in both the big picture and the details: Tiny the cop, Sugar, the songs you’d hear, the trips back to the ship on the Maltese luzzu …anything you can recall and sounds interesting.

I’d like to hold a series of interviews in the coming weeks and am happy to do them via skype or in person in the Glasgow/Edinburgh area. If this is not convenient, I can always send out a questionnaire with the possibility of contacting the participants for further details.

I will duly acknowledge anyone who participates unless they wish to remain anonymous and will also show them the transcript before it goes online upon request. At the moment there are no plans to publish these in book form but it is not excluded if the right opportunity arises.

I am looking forward to learning new things about my country and those who shaped it. Your contribution or your help in reaching out to anyone who could, would be much appreciated. Please feel free to send me a private message on this site or post on this thread.


Best

Josianne Mamo

Hi Josianne, you are most welcome to use any of my posts regarding Malta and the Gut if it will assist you in your project.

Alan

alanandbren
07-03-2012, 10:59
Hi Josianne,

If you are looking for photos of the policemen that used to be on duty at Strait Street, I can help you !

Please let me know

Joe Borda

Hi Joe. a few of us would also like to see him I'm sure.

Alan

Forester
07-03-2012, 12:33
I did some time at RAF Luqa and with spirits at betwen 3d and 6d a shot in the Gladiator Club and Blueys or Hoppies at 9d a small bottle we didn't go to The Gut that often. When we did it was a scary run on the bus, with the driver sitting to one side of his wheel so that St Christopher could take over and steer if a crash was likely. :eek:

We'd start off in the Gypsy Queen and work our way down. There was a bar near the bottom (The New Inn?) where the landlady would toss a thruppeny bit for the pleasure of taking her daughter out. Heads or Tails. If you got it right, you got the girl, if you got it wrong you paid Mum sixpence. Nobody ever got the girl, and we knew it was a fiddle, but we always played because common opinion was that one day she'd make a mistake and lose. :D

Mitch Hinde
07-03-2012, 13:41
Hi Josieanne

The best steaks were available in Chez Venzy in Floriana, left hand side going towards the Trident fountain. It always paid to get a big steak inside you before heading for the Gut.:D It was still possible to see the sign outside the place until quite recently.

Mitch Hinde

josmamo
10-03-2012, 15:40
Dear Polycell

Thanks for your reply. From the feedback I received so far I think I will go with text rather skype. I will be posting later this weekend to let you know how I will proceed.

Looking forward to hearing your stories.

Best

Josianne

josmamo
10-03-2012, 15:45
Hi Josianne,

Thank you for your kind invitation - I agree with Fred. Having made your request on here you will find there is a wealth of information and memories of Malta which I am sure are about to start flowing in. Most will be true but a few will be embellished with "I think that was what happened" accounts. Good luck in your project and ask away.

If you do it on here one story will lead to another as old memories are recalled.

Dave H


Dear Dave

To be honest, I didn't think I would receive such a huge response on this thread or through private messages. What was originally conceived as a couple of interviews has already grown into something larger so I need to make sure there is the necessary structure to sustain that. I am back to the drawing board and will give further details on the interviews and other concerns. Since many favoured the online forum as a way of communicating their stories, I'm working towards that.

Thank you all for your help and am looking forward to hearing your stories.

Best Josianne

josmamo
10-03-2012, 15:57
I did some time at RAF Luqa and with spirits at betwen 3d and 6d a shot in the Gladiator Club and Blueys or Hoppies at 9d a small bottle we didn't go to The Gut that often. When we did it was a scary run on the bus, with the driver sitting to one side of his wheel so that St Christopher could take over and steer if a crash was likely. :eek:

We'd start off in the Gypsy Queen and work our way down. There was a bar near the bottom (The New Inn?) where the landlady would toss a thruppeny bit for the pleasure of taking her daughter out. Heads or Tails. If you got it right, you got the girl, if you got it wrong you paid Mum sixpence. Nobody ever got the girl, and we knew it was a fiddle, but we always played because common opinion was that one day she'd make a mistake and lose. :D
I will definitely be asking you more about this, you got me intrigued and so would potential readers be. Thanks for sharing.

josmamo
10-03-2012, 16:01
the landlady would toss a thruppeny bit for the pleasure of taking her daughter out. Heads or Tails. If you got it right, you got the girl, if you got it wrong you paid Mum sixpence. Nobody ever got the girl, and we knew it was a fiddle, but we always played because common opinion was that one day she'd make a mistake and lose. :D

Forester,

This is certainly intriguing! Where would the girl be while all this was happening and what would she do? What about the father?

josmamo
10-03-2012, 16:06
they were horse or donkey meat
but still remember Malta fondly from my time there 1955/56 the gut was the place to go? but on my pay back then not to often,
Cheers Brian


It was probably horse meat. It can still be found nowadays, although I don't do it myself. Could you expand on your last comment? Why not and what would you do instead? Was there an alternative place to go or any other forms of 'less expensive entertainment?

Best

Josianne

josmamo
10-03-2012, 16:19
Hi Josianne,

If you are looking for photos of the policemen that used to be on duty at Strait Street, I can help you !

Please let me know

Joe Borda

Hi Joe

Thanks for your post and I would certainly be interested.


Best

Josianne

josmamo
10-03-2012, 16:21
Hi Josieanne
It always paid to get a big steak inside you before heading for the Gut.:D It was still possible to see the sign outside the place until quite recently.

Mitch Hinde

Dear Mitch Hinde

Yeah, I can see what you mean. Was there any reason for eating at Floriana rather than in The Gut?

oldsalt
10-03-2012, 17:09
In the early 50's Jim Irish had a lodging house in the Gut, the beds were all in a large room. On our way out to the Far East we sold our oilskin coats to fishermen who waited at the top end of the Gut. We sold the oilskins because in the heat of the Far East the oil skin covering melted & the whole thing became a congealed lump.

Forester
14-03-2012, 12:43
This is certainly intriguing! Where would the girl be while all this was happening and what would she do? What about the father?
Mum was the landlady and her daughter would sit next to her. She was a good natured lass and very pretty. Mum would toss the coin, catch it on the back of her hand and slap the other hand over it. If you can remember a threepenny coin, it had a portcullis on the reverse side and no doubt she could feel which way up it was under her hand. When someone guessed right she could flip it over as she removed the top hand and hey-presto! you were wrong. I don't know where the father was, but I imagine either he or one of her brothers would appear on the scene pretty quick if she ever made a mistake and you won. :D

Higher up the street at the New World (?) the waitresses would keep the cocktail stick from their glass of Ribena that passed for port & lemon. [They had the stock "Buy me drink" request of waterfront bar staff the world over - and it was always port & lemon] At the end of their shift, they'd get a bonus that depended on how many cocktail sticks they turned in. So, we'd carry a tub of cocktail sticks and hand over a handful as an extra tip when leaving for the next bar on the pub-crawl. Don't ask me why they never bought their own sticks. Maybe they weren't very bright?

Opposite the Gypsy Queen there was a Public Toilet on the street corner. You went down some steps and around the corner to be confronted by an ancient sea. There was probably stuff in there that my Dad had drunk in 1945 when the Japanese surrendered before HMS Boxer got there. We had one unfortunate who fell in and had to walk all the way back to Luqa because they wouldn't let him on the bus and none of the garry drivers would take him either. :D

Bonzo
14-03-2012, 13:07
Wasn't there also a bar at the top end called The Four Aces??

Mitch Hinde
14-03-2012, 16:14
Hi Josieanne

Ref your last question. The food was better and once we got to the Gut the last thing on your mind was eating.
Down at the bottom of the Gut and just across the road were the Bing Crosby bar and the Lancaster if I remember correctly, 1962 is a long time ago.

Mitch Hinde

astraltrader
14-03-2012, 19:13
I'll answer question but don't do skype.
Ask them here.


Fred - it would appear that access to your forum seems to be impossible. Is this a temporary state of affairs or have you now closed down for good. :confused:

Mitch Hinde
14-03-2012, 21:03
Mum was the landlady and her daughter would sit next to her. She was a good natured lass and very pretty. Mum would toss the coin, catch it on the back of her hand and slap the other hand over it. If you can remember a threepenny coin, it had a portcullis on the reverse side and no doubt she could feel which way up it was under her hand. When someone guessed right she could flip it over as she removed the top hand and hey-presto! you were wrong. I don't know where the father was, but I imagine either he or one of her brothers would appear on the scene pretty quick if she ever made a mistake and you won. :D

Higher up the street at the New World (?) the waitresses would keep the cocktail stick from their glass of Ribena that passed for port & lemon. [They had the stock "Buy me drink" request of waterfront bar staff the world over - and it was always port & lemon] At the end of their shift, they'd get a bonus that depended on how many cocktail sticks they turned in. So, we'd carry a tub of cocktail sticks and hand over a handful as an extra tip when leaving for the next bar on the pub-crawl. Don't ask me why they never bought their own sticks. Maybe they weren't very bright?

Opposite the Gypsy Queen there was a Public Toilet on the street corner. You went down some steps and around the corner to be confronted by an ancient sea. There was probably stuff in there that my Dad had drunk in 1945 when the Japanese surrendered before HMS Boxer got there. We had one unfortunate who fell in and had to walk all the way back to Luqa because they wouldn't let him on the bus and none of the garry drivers would take him either. :D

Hi All

I thought the bar opposite the aforementioned repository of used Hopleaf was the Egyptian Queen not the Gypsy Queen.

Mitch Hinde

Bonzo
15-03-2012, 08:20
I remember it as the Gyppo Queen as seen here. looking a little sad for wear.

Mitch Hinde
15-03-2012, 13:08
Hi Bonzo

They all had nicknames, the one that sticks in my memory is the Galvo Donk short for Galvanized Donkey or the Silver Horse.

Mitch Hinde

Derek Dicker
15-03-2012, 15:29
Afternoon Josi.

I think have posted these photo's on a different thread, thought it might be of interest if posted again here.


Derek (Bunts)

Dave Hutson
15-03-2012, 18:26
Nice one Derek.

Come on lads [even if we are in our 70's or so] Josianne is looking for stories.

Josianne - Why did we eat at Chez Venci's in Floriana or Frequent the Lantern Bar opposite the Fleet Library. The answer to that one could be that
when we were on ships as part of the Med Fleet or visiting from the Home Fleet the popular haunts were on Sliema Front [i.e. Tony's Bar], if in the Dockyard the Fleet Canteen at Corradina, the Barbary Coast with its many bars, Grand Harbour had it's bars outside the Customs House Landing then on to the Barracka Lift which led to the Britannia Club onto Kingsway with a few bars [one downstairs that I can't recall the name of] thence into the Gut. If you wanted to stay ashore overnight a bed at the "Cock and Bottle"
between Gzira and Sliema was a good choice.

This changed if you were then drafted to a Malta Squadron [Minesweepers, Submarines, Naval Air Station, CinC Med Staff, Fleet Diving, RNH Bighi, and others]. Then your attraction to the Gut wained and you went further afield.

I was at Lascaris Communications Centre and our tastes ran to Chez Venci's for a good blowout, Merchant Navy Club [bottom of Crucifix Hill] for other meals, Local Eating houses in Gzira, Msida, Sliema, Paceville, and Golden Bay.
Bars were mainly on Gzira Front - HMS Phoenicia local "Britannia Bar" run by an Englishman - Yorkey. Phoenicia and Minesweepers "Bamboo Bar" plus many
others.

The Divers, Communicators and the Girls {Whitehall Mansions} had a club at "Rita's Bar" on Msida Front which was our main waterhole and hosted the
"Biddy Club". To become a member you had to stand on a table after a few drinks and down a bottle of Colliero's Golden Wine in one [terrrible stuff]. I recall we had one young lady, quite slim and tall, Wendy, who after a few glasses always wanted to eat the glasses - many a night was rescuing Wendy from disaster, either jumping in the creek or munching the glass, then of course, sneaking her past the Lady Jossman on duty at the Mansions.

Enough for now - but that may trigger a few memories from others for your project.

Dave H

Scurs
16-03-2012, 06:50
Dave H...........tastes maybe change, but when I was at PHOENICIA 1963/64 favoured watering hole for homeward bound RA's was Great War Bar. :)

Dave Hutson
16-03-2012, 12:39
Dave H...........tastes maybe change, but when I was at PHOENICIA 1963/64 favoured watering hole for homeward bound RA's was Great War Bar. :)

Scurs,

What was the name of the Bar on the opposite corner to the "Britannia".

Your above "probably because Yorkie's [Brit] was full of Victualled Members"

[Josianne - A Victualled Member is someone who "Lives on Base", and an RA
is someone who "Lives Ashore" in the main Married Accompanied Personnel].

Dave H

Tico Tico
16-03-2012, 13:31
Hi,

We are currently refurbishing Tico Tico Bar in Strait Street Valletta and we are currently looking for any kind of photos of sailors in this famous street so we can hang them on our wall. We would appreciate if you could help us. Our email is ryancoleiro1@gmail.com

Thanks

Dave Hutson
16-03-2012, 16:19
Hi,

We are currently refurbishing Tico Tico Bar in Strait Street Valletta and we are currently looking for any kind of photos of sailors in this famous street so we can hang them on our wall. We would appreciate if you could help us. Our email is ryancoleiro1@gmail.com

Thanks

Hi Tico,

Is that Coleiro of the Coleiro Wine Family ??

Dave H

Tico Tico
16-03-2012, 19:07
No sorry I'm not related to them

Polycell
17-03-2012, 08:01
The trouble with the gut was it was a pain in the 'arris to get to from both St Angelo and Hal Far. So it was easier to patronise the bars nearer to 'home'
So for the most part we used to patronise Ronnies out side the gate of St Angelo in Cospicua or across the creek to Senglea and what we always knew as the 'Barbican' where the Marsavin prices didn't fluxuate according to what time of the month it was or what ships/nationality were in the harbour.
Prices varied for a bottle of Marsavin from 1/6 to half a crown if the Yanks were in even to us that patronised the bars when there was no fleet in so we soon learnt not to go near the gut on these occasions.
Again in Hal Far it was a bus or taxi ride to Valleta and the gut so local bars were easier and cheaper. So another Ronnies bar down the road from Hal Far was just the job plus he ran a 'book' for blank week drinking. Another feature of Ronnies was the Wafu Wrens who, albeit did accept the odd drink, weren't always hanging around expecting us to buy them 'green drinks'!
There was always Birzebbuga or Marsaxlokk whilst at Hal Far.

Scurs
17-03-2012, 16:57
Dave H.....................50 years on, memory aint as sharp as it could be, but could well be Great War Bar. I seem to recall it being a corner bar.........corner of one of the streets leading to Savoy Hill. Almost directly opposite Manoel Island bridge.

However someone with either more up to date knowledge, or a better memory, might know otherwise.

Dave Hutson
17-03-2012, 17:24
Dave H.....................50 years on, memory aint as sharp as it could be, but could well be Great War Bar. I seem to recall it being a corner bar.........corner of one of the streets leading to Savoy Hill. Almost directly opposite Manoel Island bridge.

However someone with either more up to date knowledge, or a better memory, might know otherwise.

Know the feeling Scurs ......... but "Great War Bar" it weren't .... for that one you turned right off the Bridge. But we will get there .................................................. ............................... eventually :):);)

Mitch Hinde
17-03-2012, 19:53
Hi All

Could this be what you are looking for. Now the Jubilee bar and cafe, used to be the Britannia Bar, right opposite Manoel Island bridge.

Mitch Hinde

Scurs
18-03-2012, 07:58
Dave H............I did say "almost directly opposite", not directly opposite, so obviously had to either turn left or right! :D

Dave Hutson
18-03-2012, 12:36
Hi All

Could this be what you are looking for. Now the Jubilee bar and cafe, used to be the Britannia Bar, right opposite Manoel Island bridge.

Mitch Hinde

Yep, that is what was Yorkie's "Britannia" but the one I am on about is the one on the other corner of that street - looking from the Bridge the left hand corner of the street.

Dave H

RonHowell
18-03-2012, 12:48
When I was on the Diamond in 60/63 I seem to remember the 'Bamboo' was opposite Maneol Bridge, could have been the Brit. however, should have kept a diary.
Another bar at the top of the Gut as I remember during my Corunna days was 'Dirty Dicks', left hand side going up from Tiny and the toilets.

Ron

Dave Hutson
18-03-2012, 12:55
When I was on the Diamond in 60/63 I seem to remember the 'Bamboo' was opposite Maneol Bridge, could have been the Brit. however, should have kept a diary.
Another bar at the top of the Gut as I remember during my Corunna days was 'Dirty Dicks', left hand side going up from Tiny and the toilets.

Ron

We are treading covered ground here Ron, The "Bamboo" was, off the Bridge, turn right, either the next turning or one further on, up on the righthand side.
Your memory cells have still got the "Brit" in the right place. :)

However, a note for all, Josianne is really looking for our stories on the Gut but seems happy to hear any we have to offer.

Dave H

Dave Hutson
18-03-2012, 12:57
When I was on the Diamond in 60/63 I seem to remember the 'Bamboo' was opposite Maneol Bridge, could have been the Brit. however, should have kept a diary.
Another bar at the top of the Gut as I remember during my Corunna days was 'Dirty Dicks', left hand side going up from Tiny and the toilets.

Ron

Ron,

On the subject of "Dirty Dick's" wasn't there a Nosh Shop almost next door that did a great "Steak, Egg and Chips" or was that in "Dirty Dick's"

Dave H

Derek Dicker
18-03-2012, 14:33
Remember it well in the 58/60 on Ulysses, great nosh

Derek

alanandbren
18-03-2012, 14:41
Ron,

On the subject of "Dirty Dick's" wasn't there a Nosh Shop almost next door that did a great "Steak, Egg and Chips" or was that in "Dirty Dick's"

Dave H

You'r right Dave, it was Dirty Dicks, steak egg and chips and a bottle of Blue for 2/6d, some times you found the odd couple of peas mingled in but it was best not to think as to how they got there.

Alan

RonHowell
18-03-2012, 14:53
Could have been Dirty Dicks as well, but as I remember the " Come in Steak egg and chips, all your ships company inside" was nearby.
Ron

alanandbren
18-03-2012, 16:18
Could have been Dirty Dicks as well, but as I remember the " Come in Steak egg and chips, all your ships company inside" was nearby.
Ron

Hi Ron, do you think it was Chico's, because I remember that eating house fairly well. I think I still have one of Dirty Dick;s cards somewhere, I will have to look it out.

Alan

Teuchter
18-03-2012, 16:52
I remember Dirty Dicks - any one recall the "measuring stick" there (for measuring certain parts of the anatomy!!!!)

RonHowell
18-03-2012, 18:02
Could well have been Chico's, I can see him standing outside trying to drag us in for "Big Eats, ships company inside", and yes a great steak and chips with a couple of eggs on the top. Then off to the 'Gippo Queen'. Great Days

Ron

josmamo
01-04-2012, 13:42
Come on lads [even if we are in our 70's or so] Josianne is looking for stories.



Hi Dave

Thanks for the prompting Dave, this project is turning out to be more interesting than I thought it would be and there are so elements to be researched. I'm putting a few questions together based on what has been written so far and will let you know.

Josianne

josmamo
01-04-2012, 13:44
We are treading covered ground here Ron, The "Bamboo" was, off the Bridge, turn right, either the next turning or one further on, up on the righthand side.
Your memory cells have still got the "Brit" in the right place. :)

However, a note for all, Josianne is really looking for our stories on the Gut but seems happy to hear any we have to offer.

Dave H

Yes, that's true. Anything you can remember and can prompt others doing so.

josmamo
01-04-2012, 13:59
So, a Maltese programme 'Bijografiji' (Biographies) is running two episodes on Strait Street and are being streamed on DI-VE. Unfortunately, these are in Maltese but the interviews include people who worked down the Gut during its prime time. I thought you'd still enjoy watching them. This is the link:

Strada Stretta 1 (http://http://public.di-ve.com/streaming/on_demand_media_streamer.aspx?id=4196&encoding=8&backUrl=streaming%2fon_demand_event_encoding.aspx% 3fid%3d4196)

Strada Stretta 2 (http://http://public.di-ve.com/streaming/on_demand_event_encoding.aspx?id=4223&backUrl=streaming/on_demand_event_library.aspx)

Hope you enjoy. Let me know if you have questions.

Mitch Hinde
01-04-2012, 21:59
Hi Josi

Can't get the links to work!!!!!!!!

Mitch Hinde

hmstotem
01-04-2012, 22:21
i have a photo of 3 rn submarines taken in Malta the Totem Tapir and Tauras..and have been wondering when it was taken...i am trying too reseach the Totem during her war years and until she returned to England..all information greatly appreciated
best wishes
Happy Easter
dermot

hmstotem
01-04-2012, 22:36
with your permission..the Totem Tapir and the Tauras..in Malta..circa..mostly unknown..before my time..would like to learn of the locality.etc..best wishes
and Happy Easter
dermot

josmamo
04-04-2012, 03:07
Hi Josi

Can't get the links to work!!!!!!!!

Mitch Hinde

Hi there

Sorry about that. If you click here (http://public.di-ve.com/streaming/on_demand_event_encoding.aspx?id=4196&backUrl=streaming/on_demand_event_library.aspx) it should work. It worked when I tested it but please let me know if you have problems. Just click on view and you should be able to view it.

josmamo
04-04-2012, 16:43
with your permission..the Totem Tapir and the Tauras..in Malta..circa..mostly unknown..before my time..would like to learn of the locality.etc..best wishes
and Happy Easter
dermot

Hi there

I might help with the locality. That should be Valletta on Marsamxett Harbour overlooking Manoel Island/Sliema/Tigne. However, the latter are not visible in the photo. The bastions you see in the picture are part of the Valletta ones.

This side of Valletta is where the new Excelsior Hotel is and further up is The Phonecia which you might remember.

Hope that helps.

oldsalt
05-04-2012, 12:37
Josianne, thanks for the tip, great viewing.

josmamo
06-04-2012, 23:55
Josianne, thanks for the tip, great viewing.

You're welcome.

alanandbren
07-04-2012, 06:47
Hi there

Sorry about that. If you click here (http://public.di-ve.com/streaming/on_demand_event_encoding.aspx?id=4196&backUrl=streaming/on_demand_event_library.aspx) it should work. It worked when I tested it but please let me know if you have problems. Just click on view and you should be able to view it.

Link works fine,but no audio, any suggestions,

Alan

Dave Hutson
07-04-2012, 12:15
Link works fine,but no audio, any suggestions,

Alan

Works fine for me , four years in Malta - wish now I had learnt Maltese.

Dave H

josmamo
15-04-2012, 06:21
Good Morning Everyone,

As many of you probably know, I'm conducting research on the Gut. I just wanted to thank all of those who participated or showed interest in these interviews.

There is still time to participate and add your memories to the pool collected so far, so please, if you feel you do have something interesting to share get in touch or follow the link below.

http://kwiksurveys.com?u=Strait_Street_Narratives

I'd love to hear what you have to say and so do many others out there.

The website will be going live soon and will feature pictures, news articles and other material although the essence of it all will remain first-hand interviews.

Before I publish it, I'd like to add a few more interviews and would appreciate your help.

Best

mjscic
22-05-2012, 05:53
[QUOTE=CYLLA;8326]BATSTIGER,


Hi, I am a maltese student, currently producing a thesis on strait street,
would your kind self fill in this questionnaire, it would be extremely important for me to study your thoughts about this street.

http://freeonlinesurveys.com/s.asp?sid=hnbmrmwhr7qgmpf61090

Thank you,
MJ

oldsalt
22-05-2012, 18:05
I met this young lady when in Malta a couple of weeks ago. The meeting happened because my wife & me were talking to a lady who worked in the coffee shop next to our hotel. The Gut came up in the conversation & the lady said my daughter is writing a book on the Gut. An arrangement was made to meet the next morning, the young lady was a delightful person, she had a copy of my answers to the questionnaire with her. We had a great chin wag & she said we had all been very helpful & her tutors were extremely pleased with her work.

Tico Tico
06-06-2012, 18:37
I am opening Tico Tico Bar in Strait Street Valletta and I am looking for some old photos it would be greatly appreciated if you can help me, my email is ryancoleiro1@gmail.com.

Regards,

Ryan

Derek Dicker
10-07-2012, 10:32
Good morning all, latest from Malta Times.

Look what is happening to the street (Strait Street/The Gut)


Derek (Bunts)

alanandbren
10-07-2012, 11:02
Good morning all, latest from Malta Times.

Look what is happening to the street (Strait Street/The Gut)


Derek (Bunts)

I for one would not fancy opening up those old drains, you can't imagine what they could find,

Alan

Teuchter
10-07-2012, 15:22
Or who for that matter Alan ;)

2012
05-08-2012, 20:53
Hi all,
Does anyone by any chance, has a photo of the famous barmaid Zeza of the Flagship music hall in floriana, or of the music hall itself (used to be in Barceloneta, Floriana)? Or maybe the klondike bar? I am from Malta and I am really interesting in finding these photos. pls help!!
thanks

Yet another. I should do this for a living! Tony's Bar at Sleima Ferry. main clientelle HMS Woodbridge and the Sweepers. Had a mirror over the urinal in the gents which did remarkable things for your masculinity. And the Kiosk across the road, now a thriving restaurant, behind which the Magic Stick Picture House stood. Woolworths on the corner was still there in 1985. And what about the Primrose Bar at Guardamanjia, named after the one time Commander of HMS Forth which tied up there for years. You got a lot of WRNS in there from Whitehall Mansions at Ta'x'biex and if you slipped the sweeper in the periscope workshop half a tot he'd let you have a squint through an attack periscope at the said WRNS sunbathing. I mentioned this at my local RNA the other day and a lady member told me that she and her mates knew all about it and would put on an innocent but revealing show for us.

Floriana and the Klondyke Tabarin which, having a full band, was able to charge threepence extra for its Marsovin (ambit, or skreech.) The Flagship was next door and I once got Stan Mathew's autograph there after a game Sliema v Floriana. (I think he played for one or the other.) Go on, stir my memory! Alan.

Do you have any photos of the Flagship or Klondyke by any chance? And what about Zeza of the Flagship, did you know her ? any photographs of her?

2012
05-08-2012, 21:18
hi do you have any photos of the flagship bar or klondyke tabarin in Floriana pls? And what about a photo of the notorious barmaid Zeza? What stories can you tell me about her?
thanks

Nicky
01-11-2012, 08:59
My grandad used to talk about his visits here and mentioned mostly the Gypsy Queen, i went to malta last week and found strait street but there are no signs up on the old buildings now, (was really disapointed as my brother went a few years ago and they were still up), i really wanted to find the gypsy queen, just wondered if anyone had any photos / memories of it ?

Derek Dicker
01-11-2012, 09:29
Good Morning Nicky, welcome to the forum, you will find a great amount of information regarding Strait Street Malta and Malta in general if you use the search facility, if you type in Grand Harbour it will take you to the thread, start from page one for an indepth look.
What time period was your grand dad in the Navy. If you have a copy of his service documents, you could post on the forum using the dedicated thread, one of our resident experts will transcribe them for you.
Good hunting.


Derek (Bunts)

NSR
01-11-2012, 10:43
Nicky,

I don't remember a Gypsy Queen but there was the Egyptian Queen at the top of the Gut; a last port of call on the way back to Lascaris Wharf. Personal favourite was the New Life a few doors down on the opposite side but they all catered for our need of refreshment.

Ken

Derek Dicker
01-11-2012, 10:49
Morning again Nicky, agree with Ken the pub was called the Egyptian Queen, see attached photo I took some time ago.

Derek

Dave Hutson
01-11-2012, 10:50
Nicky, There is a whole thread dedicated to Strait Street ........ try the Search and type in Malta - Strait Street - The Gut and that should bring it up.

There was no Gypsy Queen - the bar was commonly known as the "Gypo Queen" short for "Egyptian Queen" and standing looking down the Gut it was on the right hand side opposite the Gents Toilets which were also on the right hand side.

Dave H

Nicky
01-11-2012, 12:47
Nicky, There is a whole thread dedicated to Strait Street ........ try the Search and type in Malta - Strait Street - The Gut and that should bring it up.

There was no Gypsy Queen - the bar was commonly known as the "Gypo Queen" short for "Egyptian Queen" and standing looking down the Gut it was on the right hand side opposite the Gents Toilets which were also on the right hand side.

Dave H

You are fantastic thank you, i was stood outside it without realising it!

Nicky
01-11-2012, 12:47
Good Morning Nicky, welcome to the forum, you will find a great amount of information regarding Strait Street Malta and Malta in general if you use the search facility, if you type in Grand Harbour it will take you to the thread, start from page one for an indepth look.
What time period was your grand dad in the Navy. If you have a copy of his service documents, you could post on the forum using the dedicated thread, one of our resident experts will transcribe them for you.
Good hunting.


Derek (Bunts)

fantastic thank you i have his documnets i will drag them out and get it done, he was in malta during the war.

Nicky
01-11-2012, 12:48
Morning again Nicky, agree with Ken the pub was called the Egyptian Queen, see attached photo I took some time ago.

Derek

Thank you x

mcilia
22-11-2012, 18:06
My grandad used to talk about his visits here and mentioned mostly the Gypsy Queen, i went to malta last week and found strait street but there are no signs up on the old buildings now, (was really disapointed as my brother went a few years ago and they were still up), i really wanted to find the gypsy queen, just wondered if anyone had any photos / memories of it ?

Hi Nick,
It's not the gypsy queen but The Egyptian Queen. It was very popular in old days. If I can find a photo I will mail it.
Regards

Alan Markland
13-01-2013, 14:49
Yes. The bar was called The Two Sisters. I once saw a matelot see off the remains of the bottle after she had finished with it. I will be down the Gut in Feb/March 2012 to launch my book 'The Reel of The Hanged One.' see amazon etc.

Derek Dicker
21-04-2013, 10:57
Morning all, found this illustration on a Maltese site (bay retro), think there is a degree of artistic licence with uniforms but I'm sure it will ring true for many older ex serviceman who visited Malta in bygone days.


Derek (bunts)

alanandbren
22-04-2013, 07:31
Morning all, found this illustration on a Maltese site (bay retro), think there is a degree of artistic licence with uniforms but I'm sure it will ring true for many older ex serviceman who visited Malta in bygone days.


Derek (bunts)

Which one is you Derek?

Alan

kenharrow
22-04-2013, 08:19
Not a very good photo i'm afraid, taken in the "Lucky Wheel", 1965/66. Myself (left) and A/B "Leapy" Le Page, (RIP Oppo). We were serving in HMS Ashton at the time.
Rgards, Ken H.

oldsalt
22-04-2013, 14:50
Never had the opportunatey to " have a run to the gut" in plain clothes, it was always the full rig when I went there. When was plain clothes allowed for a run ashore in Malta. In 58 in the West Indies, the only time we were allowed ashore in civvies was in Trinidad during the Carnival. Tell a lie we senior rates were allowed civvies in Bermuda.

kenharrow
22-04-2013, 18:35
Keith, I seem to remember that the privilege of wearing "civvies" ashore from seagoing ships for Junior Ratings came in sometime in 1964, I was serving in HMS Exmouth at the time, Fishery Protection Sqdn.

Regards, Ken H.

oldsalt
23-04-2013, 17:43
If you are in civvies, how are the door girls/men able to sing out " Come inside Jack, all your ship's company inside".

eskimosailor
23-04-2013, 18:42
If you are in civvies, how are the door girls/men able to sing out " Come inside Jack, all your ship's company inside".

Oh, they knew - believe me they knew. It was the same the world over:D:D
Steve

kenharrow
23-04-2013, 18:57
Yes, you're dead right there Steve, they knew alright!
Regards, Ken H.

kenharrow
23-04-2013, 19:02
Yes, you're dead right there Steve, they knew alright! It's very difficult to disguise a matelot - don't know why??
Regards, Ken H.

oldsalt
24-04-2013, 15:56
It was tongue in cheek, the people on the door used to sing out, regardless of which ship you were in!

NSR
24-04-2013, 16:42
I remember as a new killick that Charlie of Charlie's Bar used to stand at the door shouting, 'Come inside Navy, all your ship's company here. Both of them p****d'. If you walked past the shout became, 'Acting, you b*****d'. I still preferred the New Life.

Civvies didn't exist when I was there but I don't think the people at the door had a problem as the Gut was almost exclusively Navy.

Ken

phill rose
30-04-2013, 15:41
If you are in civvies, how are the door girls/men able to sing out " Come inside Jack, all your ship's company inside".

Haircuts?:p

Mitch Hinde
30-04-2013, 16:03
Hi All

The cry of "I remember you last commish, still a piso B*****d" would reverberate down the street after anyone who ignored the invitation to step in and sample the wares on offer.

Mitch Hinde

kenharrow
30-04-2013, 17:44
Mitch, Every matelot was in Malta was was "Piso B*****d, you can't buy experience and still am!!
Regards, Ken H.

oldsalt
02-05-2013, 12:44
I will give the Gut a long looking at when I go to Malta in Sept.

MelQuick
02-05-2013, 14:18
Hi Keith

There isn't much left to see. I go down there once a year to pay my house and contents insurance!

Mel

charlie.leaver1@gmail.com
11-02-2014, 18:25
If you ex Matelots want a nostalgic trip have a look at this lot:-



I think it is better to stick with your memories!

Bob. H I Bob, Any chance that you could send the link to the pictures again as I have recently returned from a visit to the Gut and would love to see your photos. Thanks Charlie Leaver.

jbryce1437
11-02-2014, 22:02
H I Bob, Any chance that you could send the link to the pictures again as I have recently returned from a visit to the Gut and would love to see your photos. Thanks Charlie Leaver.
The link in Bobs first post on the thread is no longer available. I assume that site folded.

Jim

phill rose
12-02-2014, 14:46
There was a yarn told about the hot penny trick, any truth?

Recall my uncle telling me he was down the Gut and went out the back for a pi**, while there he was kicked to the deck and filled in, they rolled him over only to say sorry they had got the wrong bloke.:mad:

Phill

mike ralph
12-02-2014, 19:02
There was a yarn told about the hot penny trick, any truth?

Recall my uncle telling me he was down the Gut and went out the back for a pi**, while there he was kicked to the deck and filled in, they rolled him over only to say sorry they had got the wrong bloke.:mad:

Phill
I have heard of the hot penny trick and felt sorry for the poor lady of the night who fell for it. Another favourite of the few was the old flame thrower trick. Say no more. An old pal of mine wanted to show me how to do it.
One night down the gut, a Bombay Runner flew at me and struck me in the face. I swiped at it and it fell to the ground. It was dark but I could still see it.I jumped on it and practically flattened it. It did give off a strange gurgling sound, but justice was done . It was only then I realized there was a American matelot on the end of it. We were both sober and he accepted my apologies. Great times.
Mike

Scatari
12-02-2014, 19:27
One night down the gut, a Bombay Runner flew at me and struck me in the face.

Mike

Mike:

Please excuse my ignorance but what is a "Bombay Runner" ... or do I really want to know?

jbryce1437
12-02-2014, 19:33
Mike:

Please excuse my ignorance but what is a "Bombay Runner" ... or do I really want to know?
A Bombay Runner is a monster size Cockroach:)

Jim

Scatari
12-02-2014, 20:15
A Bombay Runner is a monster size Cockroach:)

Jim

Thanks Jim - my education continues!

astraltrader
12-02-2014, 22:35
....and yet another good example of the helpfulness in providing a definition for naval slang and/or acronyms used in the forum! ;)

MelQuick
13-02-2014, 16:28
Yes - we have a lot of 'Bombay Runners' here.

The cockroaches have got muscles on their eyebrows!

Mel

Polycell
13-02-2014, 19:12
....and yet another good example of the helpfulness in providing a definition for naval slang and/or acronyms used in the forum! ;)

See what you missed by not joining the Andrew !!!
Oops sorry Royal Navy

Dave Hutson
13-02-2014, 19:17
See what you missed by not joining the Andrew !!!
Oops sorry Royal Navy

Nice one Fred , nice to see you back , thought you had deserted ;)

Dave H

astraltrader
13-02-2014, 19:50
See what you missed by not joining the Andrew !!!
Oops sorry Royal Navy

I cant argue with that Fred! :o

Scatari
13-02-2014, 20:03
See what you missed by not joining the Andrew !!!
Oops sorry Royal Navy

Somehow missing out on "monster size cockroaches" doesn't rank high on my list of regrets for not joining the RN!

My tiny little mind is still trying to figure out how there was "a American matelot on the end" of the particular beastie mentioned in Mike's post!? My imagination is running wild ... with all the thoughts being less than pleasant!

mike ralph
14-02-2014, 17:20
Hello Tim
The Bombay Runner saga. I thought I had zoomed in on said target on the deck, but in fact it was the toe of a shoe and attached to the shoe and so on.
Sorry it was all a little too cryptic.
Mike

Scatari
14-02-2014, 18:03
Hello Tim
The Bombay Runner saga. I thought I had zoomed in on said target on the deck, but in fact it was the toe of a shoe and attached to the shoe and so on.
Sorry it was all a little too cryptic.
Mike

Thanks for the clarification Mike - I feel much better now!!

MelQuick
07-03-2014, 12:25
I was in Valletta this morning and I happened to walk along Strait Street for the first time in months.

Some bars have indeed opened up there - I didn't go in any of them as I was on my way to a hospital appointment but it was good to see a little 'life' in the place once more.

Mel

astraltrader
07-03-2014, 13:02
Thanks Mel - I hope your appointment went well for you. ;)

Roger Bigden
26-05-2014, 15:03
Wasn't there also a bar at the top end called The Four Aces??

Think there was Bonzo. I'm trying to remember the bar almost opposite Dirty Dicks on the other side of the road that was first in the Gut. 'Bobby' used to play piano there in a tux and bow tie. Was that it?

Anyone know what year the 'Sparrow' went AWOL or died, my guess would be about 1958? Her real name was Rita Cordina and she came from Hamrun.

Roger Bigden
28-05-2014, 22:49
Thanks for those photographs Bob. Took me back to wartime days. I wonder if anyone remembers "The Lucky Wheel" bar down the gut,with resident " Singers" Bobby and Sugar. Blokes of course! Went there on holiday in '86,but the thoroughfare ,although still there,all the bars and "characters" had gone. All the bomb damage had gone,except for one building in Valetta,which had been left wrecked as a kind of memorial. I enjoyed my return very much.
A couple of snaps taken at the time. My late wife with some residents of "The Gut".
Alan.

Bobby was the resident pianist, in probably the first pub on the left at the top of the Gut, The Ace of Spades? and opposite the then bombsite. He was resplendent in dinner jacket and bow tie in November 1960, when I first visited the Gut.

Roger Bigden
01-06-2014, 16:12
Hi Josianne,

If you are looking for photos of the policemen that used to be on duty at Strait Street, I can help you !

Please let me know

Joe Borda

Joseph, Do you know exactly what happened to 'Tiny' I heard he was fatally stabbed, about 1965 and probably by a Maltese, or possibly a Libyan?