HMS Cleopatra

[h2s0c023]

My father, Desmond Bernard Hull, was a Royal Marine who served on board HMS Cleopatra during WWII. Not sure of the years of his service but I suspect it was 1941 to 1944/45. I am seeking pictures of his ship as well crew lists from that time period to add to my family history records.

Does anyone have any that they can share with me? After the war he married and emigrated to Canada in the 1950's where he joined the Canadian Army. He retired after serving here for 22 years and past away in July 1987 due to an aneurism of his aorta. I too served in the Canadian Army Signal Corps for 22 years and 2 years with the Communications Reserves and retired from the Canadian military in 1995.

Anyone that can share those can reach me at the following email address:
shull895@telus.net.

Appreciations sent to all in advance.

Steven P. Hull

[vanessa]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had any information on where I could locate a crew list of the HMS Cleopatra in WW2.
My grandfather was a member of the crew and was called Raymond Ackroyd Harris. Our family know very little about him and would greatly appreciate any feedback anyone may have, via email,
thank you
Vanessa Harris

[cissystar650]

Or... the "oh no, Cissy's been researching again" Thread.....


Ok.. so, still struggling and getting a head ache over Great Grandfather's Naval Records... getting there slowly, Identifying the Ships and learning their history... today I came across HMS Cleopatra. Did the usual search on Google (as ya do)...and amongst the reams of wrong results, up popped an American website, selling a book written by William Wait, Staff Surgeon about the "Three Year Cruise" on Cleopatra 1892 - 1895...the exact dates that dear old Great Granddaddy was on board! Now I am not about to stump up the $500 they want for the book...and was determined to learn more myself... but three hours later and almost gone blind from squinting at the screen..I have to report that there is nothing to report that I can find!

So, if any of you can shed any light or a new pair of specs, I would be eternally grateful!

cissy

[herakles]

£500! OMG!

I had a quick check myself - and found nothing.

Good luck!!!

[tomsam]

Hi Cissy. I'm not sure how much you know regarding HMS Cleopatra or if it is the "Three Year Cruise" bit ,you are interested in. I will include a bit on Cleopatra and you can disregard it if not pertinent.
She was a Comus class steel corvette.In around 1896 she was on station in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia waters protecting the fisheries, under the command of Captain A.G Curzon-Howe.I am sure that her cruising remit in the years previous was South to North America and your great grandad probably sailed in that theatre of operations.This snippet will I hope kick start things
Regards
Tomsam

[tomsam]

That was a quick demotion.Lt Cmdr to Leading seaman in 30 mins. Whats happening:confused:

[herakles]

Check out the post in New Members. Everyone has been demoted.

[tomsam]

I see said the blind man. What about recruits if they're Army. I don't think they are going to like being a leading seaman.Never mind, as you said it's just a bit of fun LOLOLOL

[Batstiger]

There's nothing wrong with being a Killick, I was one once!!

[The Sailor]

Did you really look young like that once Bob? It seems hard to believe now.

[cissystar650]

Hi Cissy. I'm not sure how much you know regarding HMS Cleopatra or if it is the "Three Year Cruise" bit ,you are interested in. I will include a bit on Cleopatra and you can disregard it if not pertinent.
She was a Comus class steel corvette.In around 1896 she was on station in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia waters protecting the fisheries, under the command of Captain A.G Curzon-Howe.I am sure that her cruising remit in the years previous was South to North America and your great grandad probably sailed in that theatre of operations.This snippet will I hope kick start things
Regards
Tomsam

Thankyou Tomsam... I am interested in both, yet there seems to be little or no information out there regarding the 'cruise'. I'll keep searching though.

cissy

[Stan.J]

Well Sailor, remember we were all young once. I wish I had half the hair I had when this pic. was taken. For some unknown reason it seems to be disappearing now.:confused:

[herakles]

Take heart Stan. As I understand it, baldness and virility seem to be connected!

[Draconis]

CLEOPATRA 1878 Comus class Iron and Steel Corvette

(Take note that this is the fifth Cleopatra)

Displacement 2380 tons
Length 225'
Beam 44'
Draught 19'
Armament 2 X 7" Muzzle-loaders (rifled)
12 X 64 pounders
Re-armed in 1885 with 5 &6" breech-loading guns
Machinery Compound engines = 2590 horse power
Speed 13¾ knots
Built by Elder of Glasgow
Launched 1st January 1878

She was at the intervention at Bluefields, Nicaragua 1894. In 1905 she was reduced to harbour service and was later put to use as an overflow ship to Defiance in the Hamoaze, Devonport.
In January 1922 she was renamed Defiance III.
She was sold to Castle at Millbay, Plymouth, for breaking up in July 1931.

That's all I can dig up for you Cissy...and a picture of her "classmate" the HMS Constance.

[cissystar650]

Thankyou Draconis...every little bit helps. I have two Great Grandfathers, a Great Uncle and a Grandfather, whose careers I am piecing together bit by bit, and enjoying every minute of it as well as learning so much along the way. My friends all make 'seafaring' jokes now.... hmmm maybe I am being a bit obsessive! :confused:

[Batstiger]

Pics of the Cleopatra are few and far between.

[tomsam]

Hi Cissy.
I have to admit I am beaten. Nothing turned up that you don't already know.
PS. You have gone very quiet, have you got an attack of the guilts and turned to some housework. LOLOL
Cheers
TOMSAM

[khurstjnr]

Hi all.

First post, trying to put together a file for my grandfather.

He served during WW2 and from what information I have he went into Malta on the HMS Royalist, and left on the HMS Cleopatra.

Have found a bit of information on service history of the two ships, and some photo's of them, but would really like some more detailed personnel information.

Something like service records or exact dates when the ships went into and left Malta, and what would be really nice is a few clear crew photographs.

Ive only just started my research a couple of days ago and have never undertaken anything like this before so any help on where to start looking would be greatly appreciated :)

PS - have done a search of this site and retrieved some info already, thanks for that to the original posters.

[steve roberts]

You should find all the knowledge to answer your questions here on the forum.Do you have his service Number.It tends to simplify matters where sevice documents are concerned.Welcome to our can of worms we call the Forum....Regards Steve.;)

[qprdave]

Getting his Service Docs is important and the best place to start

Go here to find out how to go about obtaining them

http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3131

When you do get them. If you can post them here then we can help you decipher them

Dave

[khurstjnr]

Thanks folks, will start with the service documents.

[melvinhopkins]

hi i am looking for any information pics of the cleopatra i have just found out that my grandfather served on her in the 2nd ww all i now about him is is name is percy hopkins from south wales (neath)it would be great if someone new him and could tell me a little about him as i never got to meet him he died in the late fortys i think thanks so much mel

[John Brown]

Welcome to the forum Mel.

To get you started....

You will find a 'service history' for HMS Cleopatra here...

http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-06CL-Cleopatra.htm

I hope this helps and good luck with your research.


Regards...John

[Dreadnought]

Hi Melvin,

Welcome to the Forum.

In case you haven't yet got to grips with our search facility, here are some links to existing threads associated with HMS Cleopatra.

http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6109&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6109&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra)
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra)
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=902&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=902&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra)
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra)
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra (http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121&highlight=HMS+Cleopatra)

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[melvinhopkins]

hi my grandad was on the clea as well just started to seach for his records hope this will help you, the servies records after 1923 are not held by the national archives but you can contact THE DIRECTORATE OF PERSONNEL SUPPORT tel 01283227913 fax 01283227942 and thay will give your grandads records to you there is a form to fill in and a charge of £30 best wishes and good luck mel

[melvinhopkins]

Welcome to the forum Mel.

To get you started....

You will find a 'service history' for HMS Cleopatra here...

http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-06CL-Cleopatra.htm

I hope this helps and good luck with your research.


Regards...John

thanks john so much

[melvinhopkins]

thanks clive a great start for me regards mel