ORP BURZA

[romft1945]

I found this while going through my fathers belongings has any one any idea looking at the flag on the rear I do not think it is British
Rom

[BB60]

Polish Naval ensign?
http://www.fotw.us/Flags/pl~.html

[romft1945]

Cheers mate what a prat Iam my dad served with them during the war on the ORP GROM and the ORP BURZA one I owe you
ROM:mad:

[BB60]

Maybe one of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicher_class_destroyer

[kc]

I was just about to post - is it the Wicher class?

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/images/burzampl5786.jpg

Burza

[The Sailor]

Looks good Kc. I see that pic of Roms has good N7 on it's side. Surely that would help. I looked at the browsers but didnt turn up anything.

[kc]

At first I thought it was one of the many French destroyers from about that time. Lots of similar ones there, but the ensign gave it away. Once I knew it was Polish, just a case of looking on the Polish Navy pages on the site for the ship, (and of course checking the silhouettes in Conways). Unfortunately no info on the pennants to hand, but seems the most likely option.

[romft1945]

Well thanks lads you have helped me a great deal and really appreciate it I have now identified her the Pennant No is H 73 it the ORP BURZA built by the french Chantiers Navals Francais in Caen laid down 01 11 1927,launched 16 04 1929,commissioned 10 07 1932 Burza means Storm in english she escaped to England in Sept 1939 My father served on her from 5th may 1940 when he was picked up in a fijord as the ship he was on then the ORP GROM was sunk he left the Burza on 31 may 1942 to join HMS Rodney,
Cheers lads Rom:)

[The Sailor]

I guess now you say the number H-73, I can read it.
Interesting Rom. Good post.

[BB60]

Cheers mate what a prat Iam my dad served with them during the war on the ORP GROM and the ORP BURZA one I owe you
ROM:mad:

Sometimes things are so obvious we just miss them. If it had been a snake...

[The Sailor]

Burza H-73

Navy The Polish Navy
Type Destroyer
Class Wicher
Pennant H 73
Built by Chantiers Navals Francais (Caen, France)
Ordered
Laid down 1 Nov, 1927
Launched 16 Apr, 1929
Commissioned 10 Jul, 1932
End service
Loss position

History Burza means storm in English.
Escaped to England in August / September 1939.
Decommisioned to reserve in 1944.
Return to Poland in 1951.
Became a museum in 1960.
Scrapped in 1977.

[astraltrader]

Hi Rom - some different views of the Burza you might not have seen.

Best wishes
Terry/Exeter

[The Sailor]

Is that your new Sig Pic Terry? Nice one. What ship is it?
Graeme

[astraltrader]

Hi Graeme - Its a Hunt class destroyer - from memory I think its the Badsworth. I was fiddling about here with a few different ship silhouettes and had just decided to use this one as a Sig pic, when I noticed this post about the Burza - hence why no identifying tag yet! My aim is to eventually select around half a dozen of my favorite ones and rotate every now and then.
In all honesty I got the inspiration for using silhouettes from your Perth graphic - so thank you, sir!

Best wishes
Terry/Exeter.

[Batstiger]

Another Burza for you.

[romft1945]

Thanks lads these are great his great grandson will enjoy doing his project with these on him,he choose for his school to do a naval project on his great grandad during the war,
Rom:D

[romft1945]

Here we go lads thinking caps on found these in parents effects but as per usual nothing on the back anyone any ideas ROM

[Batstiger]

I'll have a go but I think you need Rik on this one!

Bob.

[romft1945]

Thanks bob Rom
:eek:

[david]

Maybe FNS LEOPARD after collision with Lowestoft (11 07 1942)

[romft1945]

Thanks I was looking on a funny site and does an I Class dystroyer ring any bells will check your out Dave Thanks Rom

Would a good guess be a Chacal class Dystroyer from France ?

It is a French Dystroyer but which one?

[romft1945]

Gentleman problem solved the ship is the ORP BURZA of the polish navy,on the 16th November 1940 she collided with the British ASW HMS Arse:Dnal in heavy fog,unfortunately HMS Arsenal sank Burza went into repairs untill the 30th July 1941 when she again became seaworty and rejoined a convey enroute to Norway,
Rom

Anyone find anything please post for me thanks Rom

[Batstiger]

That saves me looking, thanks.
I seem to remember you posting about the Burza before ROM, I think you did that so that you could answer you own question!!

Bob.

[romft1945]

No Bob My father served with the Polish navy during the war as a BNLO for those of you British Naval Liasion Officer,its just that I have these old photos ,the problem was solved when my elder brother showed me more photos I never new exsisted and doing a little research found the Burza was in dry dock, wondering why checked it out and quite by chance came across what I have posted,the moral to this is always write on the back of a photo.By the way why would i post something just to come up with the answer at a later date you got that totally wrong.The conclusion I came to was on the basis that Burza suffered extensive bow damage so I could still be wrong but I doubt it,will let you know when I check out Hms Arsenal:mad:

By the way Father was awarded the Polish CROSS of VALOUR by the Polish Government in exile for his bravery for Poland during the war

[John Brown]

Rom

You must be very proud of your father. I'm sure all of us are proud of relatives who have 'seen action' but it must bring an extra lump to your throat when one is given an award for individual bravery.

Regards...John

[Batstiger]

Only joking ROM !

[romft1945]

Bats no problem mate all my family were naval, brothers all 3 ,dad, grandad ,greatgrandad etc often wondered if nelson was my b----y father,
ROMFT 1945:p

This is a great site and Iam proud to be a member of it albeit a learner and post things b4 I get it all right but lets be honest its rather exciting trying to discover what the parents etc did,tot time
Rom (hic)

[Stan.J]

Rom, Now you have had your tot. how about downloading some of those pics you have..Could be interesting?
Cheers, Stan

[romft1945]

Stan have downloaded a lot on different threads as Illustrious ,Burza, Empress gt Britian,the rest Iam still going through but all will be revealed in good time here are a few if they come out Romft

No 1 1918
No 2 1939
No 3 1951
No 4 1959
No 5 1949
No 6 1940
No 7 1954

[Stan.J]

Nice ones Rom, Any idea of the dates of the photos???

[Batstiger]

Rom, it would take a bit longer to get rid of all the marks.

Bob.

[The Sailor]

Hey well done on those pics Bob. Who said you were dumb?
Great posts Rom and Stan. A credit to our forum.
Bob, how about a written siggy of HMS Tiger near your sig pic old mate?
It must be a bit confusing for new members. Cheers.

[Batstiger]

I have noted your comment Graeme and when I learn how to, I will change it.

Bob.

[herakles]

Bob, all I did was to type the words beside the signature. It worked!

[romft1945]

There you go Stan J dates added will do more when I get more sorted,
Rom:)

[Marek T]

Here is a photo of BURZA's other side after November 1940 collision. It was scanned from a book, hence rather low quality.

[Big Al]

Romft 1945, don't know if you have seen this picture of her?

[romft1945]

Romft 1945, don't know if you have seen this picture of her?

Cheers Big Al nice photo 1st time I have seen it

[Marek T]

On the last photo BURZA is seen as a floating museum, in 1960s.
After her arrival to Poland in 1951 she was rebuilt as an AA destroyer. Rrecommissioned in 1955 she managed to visit Portsmouth in 1955 together with BLYSKAWICA (see photo 1). In 1960 she was withdrawn from service and became a museum in Gdynia (photo 2) until 1975.

[Alex Shenec]

Hi.

"Vicher" and "Burza" in Riga.

Best regards

Alex

[Marek T]

Thanks Alex.
The ship in background in the first photo is GROM. Thus the photos were taken in 1937. The third photo was taken from GROM - see the buoy with G on it.

[Alex Shenec]

;)

Thanks Alex.
The ship in background in the first photo is GROM. Thus the photos were taken in 1937. The third photo was taken from GROM - see the buoy with G on it.

I did not know date. "Grom" went one to Riga?

Best regards

Alex

[Alex Shenec]

One more photo "Burza".

[romft1945]

Thanks lads pity father was not still here to see these ROM