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TheDigger
20-02-2008, 10:14
Firstly all sorry about the size of the post but this is a most intersesting combined operation of the Royal Navy and British Army ( Commando) early in the war. The result deemed successful but the cost in commandos was horendous and was I believe the highest of any commando raid during WW2

The St. Nazaire Raid (also called Operation Chariot) was a successful British seaborne attack on the heavily defended docks of St. Nazaire in occupied France on the night of March 28, 1942 during World War II. The operation was undertaken by Royal Navy and Army Commando units under the auspices of Louis Mountbatten's Combined Operations.

The obsolete destroyer HMS Campbeltown commanded by Stephen Halden Beattie and accompanied by 18 shallow draft boats, rammed the St. Nazaire lock gates and was blown up, ending use of the dock. Commandos landed on the docks and destroyed other dock structures before attempting to fight their way out. All but 27 of the commandos were either killed or captured: 22 escaped back to Britain in the motor torpedo boats and 5 to the Spanish border.

The loss of St. Nazaire as a dry dock would force any large German warship in need of repairs to have to return to home waters.

Several features of St. Nazaire made it worth attacking. The main target was the Forme Ecluse Louis Joubert, an enormous dry dock capable of holding the largest Kriegsmarine (German Navy) warships and the only dock of that size on the Atlantic coast. The British feared that the Tirpitz would be transferred to St. Nazaire.
The dock had been built between 1928 and 1932 to accommodate the SS Normandie liner and is sometimes referred to as the Normandie Dock. It was 1,148 feet (350 m) long and 164 ft (50 m) wide, connecting at one end into the Penhoet basin and entering the estuary at the other. The locks of the dock were caisson-and-camber, each 167 feet (51 m) long and 35 feet (11 m) thick constructed of hollow steel sections.

As well as the dock the harbour included a new submarine base being built by the Organisation Todt with fourteen enormous submarine pens. It was connected to the sea via two entrances both fitted with lock systems,
The German defences at St. Nazaire were considered the second toughest in western France after those of Brest with nearly 100 guns of various calibre the largest being 240mm down to the 20mm for aircraft defence Around 1,000 troops manned these defences and there were a further 5,000 or so military personnel in the town.

The scheme relied on surprise, a flotilla of shallow-draft boats would speed up the estuary while the German defences were distracted by an air-raid. A destroyer carrying tons of explosives hidden inside it would be rammed into the exposed caisson of the Normandie Dock.

Commando raiding parties would then disembark from the destroyer and accompanying vessels to attack and destroy 24 targets in the dock area. The raiding force would then be withdrawn by sea from the edge of the harbour via the "Old Mole" jetty. Some hours later delayed-action would trigger the massive explosive charge on the destroyer.

The final plan involved the destroyer, sixteen motor launches, one Motor Gun Boat and one Motor Torpedo Boat.

The destroyer was HMS Campbeltown, an obsolete craft. She was previously the USS Buchanan of the United States Navy, transferred to Britain early in the war. The Campbeltown was given cosmetic modifications so that she would resemble a German Möwe class destroyer. Explosives consisted of 24 Mark VII depth charges enclosed in steel tanks and concrete. Each depth charge contained 132 kg of amatol, giving a total explosive charge weight of 3.17 metric tons.

The ship was to ram the caisson and then be scuttled to prevent her removal before she could explode. Campbeltown was commanded by Lieutenant-commander S. H. Beattie and the crew was reduced to 75.

The motor launches were the Fairmile B craft designed by Fairmile Marine and were 112 feet (34 m) long and 19.5 feet (5.9 m) in beam. They were armed with a 20 mm Oerlikon for air defence, four 0.303 inch (7.62 mm) Lewis guns and depth charges. With a normal crew of twelve, on Operation Chariot each carried fifteen commandos and extra fuel tanks.

The motor gun boat MGB 314 was added to act as a headquarters ship for the naval command. She was a Fairmile C type, She was armed with one automatic QF 2 pounder (40 mm) forwards, one semi-automatic Rolls-Royce QF 2 pounder amidships and two 0.50 inch (12.7 mm) Vickers machine guns.
The motor torpedo boat, MTB 74, was a special craft, a Vosper & Company motor-boat. She was modified to carry delayed-action torpedoes weighing 2,200 lb (1,000 kg) each. The fuel consumned would require it to be towed most of the way to the target. She and all the other motor boats were painted a special shade of purple, dubbed 'Plymouth Pink', designed to make them less conspicuous to searchlights.

The number of men employed in the attack was 611. The naval commander was R. E. D. Ryder and the Commandos were led by Lieutenant-Colonel A. C. Newman. The Commando force was divided into three groups, two on the motor launches and one on Campbeltown.

The Attack

The diversionary bombing was desultory and did little except to alert the German forces that something odd was happening. Despite this the British ships got very close to the harbour without being fired on. The force was first noticed at 01:15 but searchlights did not go on until 01:22 when the force was little more than 1.5 nautical miles (2.8 km) from the harbour. The British flew the Kriegsmarine ensign and used a German morse call sign and gained almost five minutes of unimpeded progress.

It was not until 01:28 with less than a mile to the harbour that the German guns opened fire and the White Ensign was hoisted. The Campbeltown drew most fire but despite a number of casualties struck the southern caisson at around 20 knots (37 km/h) at 01:34, jamming herself deep into the structure and crumpling almost 40 feet (12 m) of her hull. The delay fuses had been set shortly before the ship came under fire.

The seven Commando teams then disembarked and made for their targets, destroying much of the equipment associated with the Normandie Dock.
The seventeen smaller vessels, although receiving less fire, were much more vulnerable. In the four minutes around the ramming by the Campbeltown eight of the launches were destroyed in the channel. Most of the eight craft destroyed suffered greater than 80% fatalities, even on the surviving craft barely a man escaped injury.

In the dark and dazzled by the searchlights several boats overshot the harbour entrance and had to turn back through heavy fire to try and land their Commandos. MTB 74 survived, fired her special torpedoes into the lock at the old entrance and made it back out to sea after taking on around half the crew of the Campbeltown.

The intact motor launches took on what survivors they could find or rescue from the water, made smoke and withdrew, leaving just over a hundred Commandos on the docks. MGB 314 survived and was the last vessel to leave, her decks covered in wounded men rescued from the water.

As the boats moved out into the wider part of the channel they came under fire from heavier guns, although at longer range. Two boats were destroyed in the race down river, one of the motor launches and MTB 74. Both vessels were carrying many wounded and most of the Campbeltown crew; their losses accounted for over half of the naval casualties.
A final motor launch, carrying 28, was engaged at around 05:30 by the German destroyer Jaguar to capture the British vessel, Jaguar did not use her main armament and the two vessels exchanged heavy small arms fire. After almost an hour of firing and manoeuvring, with twenty dead or seriously wounded, the British surrendered. Sergeant T. F. Durrant who had manned a Lewis gun during the clash kept firing despite being severely wounded having been shot over 16 times, eventually he passed out from loss of blood and died. He was later posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross upon the personal recommendation of the German officer in command of the Jaguar.

Four British vessels made the rendezvous with the destroyers; two were abandoned at that point due to their condition and the others were abandoned slightly later when the destroyers came under air attack. Upon reaching the destroyers, the occupants of three motor launches were informed that their vessels were to be sunk, but they decided nevertheless to return to Falmouth under their own power. On the way they shot down a Messerschmitt aircraft.

Of the British force 169 had been killed over 200 were captured, German casualties from the battle were 42 killed and 127 wounded.

As well as the VC for Sergeant Thomas Frank Durrant a further four VCs were awarded to Lieutenant-Commander Stephen Halden Beattie, Lieutenant Colonel Augustus Charles Newman, Commander Robert Edward Dudley Ryder and Able Seaman William Alfred Savage.

The Campbeltown's charges were timed to go off at around 0900 hrs at the latest. Meanwhile, a German search of the ship failed to discover the hidden explosives. The detonation time came and went. During this delay, senior German officers arrived to inspect the damage and were photographed on deck. They were accompanied to the dock by two Commando officers who had been taken prisoner. The captured officers knew what was about to happen but had to keep the secret. It was not until 1035 hrs that the Campbeltown finally exploded, destroying the caisson.

As intended, the delayed-action torpedoes fired by MTB 74 at the lock gates did not detonate until 30 March 1942.

Despite the heavy casualties suffered by the British raiders, the St. Nazaire raid was judged to be highly successful: the dock was severely damaged and remained unusable until 1947.

HMS DARLASTON
07-08-2008, 13:02
Very interesting post. I am currently researching one of the men from this action.
In 1999 I wrote a small book on the history of Darlaston cemetery and the War Graves therein. One of the men buried there was a crewman on HM MGB 314.
About two weeks ago I realised that MGB 314 was the ship that carried the HQ personnel for Op Chariot. 314 was badly damaged and so she was sunk by British fire. I presume that he was wounded, returned to England and died here. His death is registered in Bilston Staffs but there is no hospital actually in the town. May have to splash out and get the death cert'.
The man?
Frederick Cyril Wilkes, Ordinary Seaman, C/JX260091. aged 29 when he died on 22nd June 1942.
He was the son of Thomas & Susan Wilkes, nee Bradshaw.

Donald Maciver
04-10-2008, 23:23
Hollo Digger,

No apology necessary for the length of this posting. Ten times the length would not do justice to the sheer daring of this raid or the bravery of those taking part.

My uncle, A/Ldg Sea Angus Maciver, (does that stand for Acting/ Leading Seaman?) was a member of the crew of ML 160, hence my interest in this particular subject.

ML 160 was one of two of the Motor Launches that made it back I believe. Uncle Angus survived the war, married in London shortly after and settled in New Zealand. I never had the honour of meeting him.

Quite by chance I bought a book about this raid at a second hand bookstall last summer and came across my uncle's name among the lists of Naval and Commando personnel who took part.

HMS Darlaston's query regarding Frederick Cyril Wilkes: The crew list of MGB 314 does not include this name. I suppose it could have been accidentally omitted. Sorry if this is unhelpful to your research. To aid your research here are the details of the book:

St Nazaire Commando by Stuart Chant-Sempill
John Murray (Publishers) Ltd....ISBN 0-7195-4211-1

I hope this might be of help to you,

Regards,
Donald.

herakles
04-10-2008, 23:45
The Digger won't be replying Donald. He left the forum a long time ago.

In fact it is a mystery to me that his thread attracted such little interest.

The raid was an extraordinary thing and how medals were awarded must have been very difficult.

If there's a tragedy, it's the large loss of life that occurred.

astraltrader
04-10-2008, 23:50
Sorry Donald!

A Herakles mentioned, out of pure bad luck you happen to have replied to somebody who is no longer using the forum!

What you might find useful is that you can click on any user name and you will see 4 options. The third option is "Find all posts by..."
Selecting that option will enable you to quickly see the dates of that poster`s most recent posts and then give you a good idea of how active that member is.:)

John Odom
05-10-2008, 00:22
This was indeed a daring operation. When my son was in about 2nd grade, we lived in Canada,, and my son, on his own, with his own money, bought a book about this operation. He had seen a short educational movie at school and noticed the book when we visited a bookstore in Edmonton.

Donald Maciver
05-10-2008, 21:42
Hello There Herakles & Astraltrader,

Sorry to hear that The Digger has taken leave of his thread.

In the "Shore Leave" segment of the Forum I posted a query under the thread "Forum Protocol" about replying to old postings. The advice I recieved from no less a source than Herakles himself was to disregard the age of a thread.

Although The Digger has gone, perhaps "HMS Darlaston", who posted to the thread less than a month ago, may still pop back and find the information I left for him useful.

I agree with all concerned that this operation was indeed among the most couragious in the anals of British Military History. Your son, John Odom, in whom you seem to be well pleased, with justification, could have done a lot worse with his pocket-money than invest it in such a book.

Five V.C.'s were awarded for this operation, is that a record? It must indeed have been difficult to decide on who should get them, as part of the citation for Able Seaman William Alfred Savage might well illustrate;

"This Victoria Cross is awarded in recognition not only of the gallantry and devotion to duty of Able Seaman Savage, but also of the valour shown by many others, unnamed, in Motor Launches, Motor Gun Boats and Motor Torpedo Boats, who gallantly carried out their duties in entirely exposed positions against enemy fire at very close range"

The King himself is virtually recognising that every single Naval participant of the raid should recieve the medal, not just any medal, the V.C. no less.

My own Uncle Angus has long since joined the Combined Opps in the sky. It would certainly be a pleasure to hear from any veterans of this operation. Their's is a story worth hearing.

The 600 men of the Light Brigade who rode into the Valley of Death have been immortalised in verse.

The 610 Navy and Commando who sailed into the Valley of Death that was the Port of St Nazaire on that March morning in 1942, deserve no less.

Regards,
Donald.

RogerP
12-12-2008, 11:09
Greetings from OZ,

With my research and modelling interest being "Allied Light Coastal Forces 1914-45" Op Chariot holds a very LARGE interest for me.

Check out James Dorrian's website --

http://www.jamesgdorrian.com/

James wrote the very good "Storming St Nazaire" and also has a 'blogspot' at the foot of his homepage which aludes to a forthcoming movie.

Roger Pearson.
Bendigo, Australia.

Harley
12-12-2008, 13:00
On the matter of V.C.s, eleven were awarded after the Battle for Rorke's Drift in 1879 - seven of those by men of the 24th Regiment of Foot.

Simon

HMS DARLASTON
05-02-2009, 12:24
Hi Donald.
Thank you for replying to my post. I have only just noticed it.
My New Year resolution was to make more use of the forums.
It was a N Y R so obviously it got broken.
I think I can do better with 5th Feb' resolutions.
Again, thanks.

Batstiger
05-02-2009, 14:35
This subject was partly covered on the following link:-

http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476&highlight=cambeltown

Bob.

colombamike
06-02-2009, 18:03
Hi guys !
my contribution for this fabulous operation
picture's of HMS Campbeltown after hitting there target, in few picture, several german soldier were seens....a few minutes after these picture were taken, the destroyer explode.......

Alastair Oliver
11-04-2009, 16:32
Hello Chaps,
Having read the "Greatest Ever Raid" and seen two or three documentries on the subject of "Operation Charriot", I have concluded that this act of Lunacy probably did more to inspire others than any other mission during World War II
If Bismarc and Terpitz had had a free reign in the Atlantic, we would have been starved of food and munitions - end of story.
As a truly fitting tribute to those very brave men, wouldn't it be wonderful to preserve a `B' Class Fairmile? The vessel could be used as a living source of information, not just for Charriot, but for `D' Day and Coastal Forces in general.
Of the 650 Fairmile B's built, my estimate is that there may be 10 left in the world. Only three of these are here in Britain, one is a wreck, one a houseboat. The remaining [and most original] is Western Lady III.
If you are interested in helping to save this beautiful little ship, and keep her operational as a passenger vessel, please contact me shortly.
Regards
Alastair Oliver westernlady3@yahoo.co.uk 07807249649

qprdave
24-02-2010, 19:52
Here's how the Times reported the Raid on St. Nazaire

steve roberts
24-02-2010, 21:17
Hi Dave.Yet another good one!...Regards Steve..

qprdave
24-02-2010, 21:41
Thanks Steve

alanbenn
24-02-2010, 21:49
Dave, these all make for fascinating reading for me, I've never been a lover of books even as a kid didn't like reading books.

So these little snippets you keep unearthing are just about right for my brain to cope with.:D

Thanks ever so much for posting them.

Regards
Alan

qprdave
24-02-2010, 22:06
Thanks Alan

I'm happy that I can please some of you with my contributions

Dave

Bee
25-02-2010, 04:41
Thanks Alan

I'm happy that I can please some of you with my contributions

Dave

Dave, have no doubt about how much we appreciate your contributions, in the many threads you have created and in all others that you contribute to.

We do....and I'm sure you must know it by now... :)

Cheers,

Bee

qprdave
25-02-2010, 05:32
Thanks Bee for your comments.

There are about 6 members who, like you, regularly thank/Acknowledge posts that other members place here, in this forum. I am sure that the regular poster, like me, are grateful for the kind comments that these people post.

Dave

astraltrader
25-02-2010, 12:24
Dave, I would also like to add my thanks for all these cuttings from the Times. They are appreciated mate.

Vegaskip
25-02-2010, 16:19
Hi Dave I agree with Alan,your posts are shorter than a book,but give a full account of a life or action, and we must remember, they were real people, who did remarkable things.Keep it up mate.

Regards

jonti
26-02-2010, 03:40
An important aspect of the St. Nazaire raid was that it was one of the first pro-active moves by Britain against the German war machine and its success was a great morale booster to the civilian population. Rob T

RogerP
09-09-2010, 08:53
We lose another ‘Legend of St Nazaire’
‘Micky’ Burn MC. 11 Dec 1912 – 3 Sep 2010.
While not a navy man I feel his exploits and connection to the ‘little ships’ are well worth remembering.

Michael Clive Burn, a Captain of the Kings Royal Rifle Regt and No. 2 Commando has sadly passed away in his north Wales home in his 98th year after suffering another major stroke. He has been described by many as a prolific author, prize winning poet, raconteur, an unrepentant wag and an indestructible human being.
With James’ permission I would like to include this excerpt from his blog when he visited with Micky on Sat July 10 this year. James Dorrian is the author of the very good “Storming St Nazaire” --–
http://chariot-heroes.blogspot.com/
Saturday was spent with Micky Burn, who has now left hospital and is being looked after at home. For someone who has had a stroke, his intellectual grasp remains amazing, with a memory of past (in his case, at almost 98, VERY past) events that puts the rest of us to shame. He spends a lot of time in bed, and one would have to say there is something fittingly decadent in the way he issue orders from a reclining position - a sort of latter day Augustus, demanding the return, not of lost legions, but of his physical independence.

I don't know what it is about these ex-Commandos: but where mere mortals have to result to pills and potions to keep body and soul together, they rely on the kind of sheer bloody-mindedness that made them such an elite in the first place. Pity that can't be bottled: what a world we would have then.....

Micky was one of very few people to have met personally both Adolf Hitler and Franklin Roosevelt, the former whom he admired at the time (1935) but later realizing what he really stood for, leaving a bitter taste in his mouth for many years.

March 1942 sees Micky on his way to St Nazaire to take part in “The Greatest Raid of All” where he was detailed to secure an area of the town to allow demolitions to be safely carried out. Disaster struck when his ‘little ship’ ML 192 was struck by four large caliber shells causing her to crash ashore nowhere near his intended landing place. Four of the ships company of 17 were killed along with eight of Micky’s 14 man commando group. He was the only commando to make it ashore safely, the rest of his comrades being wounded then captured. He was wounded three times but somehow reached his objective but with only a pistol and no support he could do nothing and shortly after was captured. He spent the remainder of the war in Colditz Castle where he wrankled the senior POW officer W CDR Douglas Bader by preaching Marxist theories to his fellow officers. He also helped with a secret radio utilizing his journalistic skills boosting morale with updated messages on the war’s progress.

Post war he met and married Mary Booker in 1947 and he spent the remainder of his life in Wales with his beloved Mary passing away in 1974.

This following link should take you to a little teaser taken from a documentary being made about Micky to be followed by a movie about his part in Operation Chariot ---

http://www.youtube.com/michaelburnmc

May He Rest in Peace
Joining those other ‘Legends of St Nazaire’ who have preceded him.

Mitch Hinde
09-09-2010, 21:15
Hi

Jeremy Clarkson did a documentary about this raid some time ago and like me seemed to be amazed that there is not a better memorial to the men who took part.

Thanks to all for the above. Fascinating reading.

Mitch Hinde

RogerP
12-09-2010, 22:42
For those interested and living in the UK (Wales) see details of Micky's funeral arrangements on the 'chariot-heroes blogspot'.

There are now less than 20 survivors left from the original 'gallant 600' (611).

Bee
18-09-2010, 03:54
We lose another ‘Legend of St Nazaire’
‘Micky’ Burn MC. 11 Dec 1912 – 3 Sep 2010.
While not a navy man I feel his exploits and connection to the ‘little ships’ are well worth remembering.

Michael Clive Burn, a Captain of the Kings Royal Rifle Regt and No. 2 Commando has sadly passed away in his north Wales home in his 98th year after suffering another major stroke. He has been described by many as a prolific author, prize winning poet, raconteur, an unrepentant wag and an indestructible human being.
With James’ permission I would like to include this excerpt from his blog when he visited with Micky on Sat July 10 this year. James Dorrian is the author of the very good “Storming St Nazaire” --–
http://chariot-heroes.blogspot.com/
Saturday was spent with Micky Burn, who has now left hospital and is being looked after at home. For someone who has had a stroke, his intellectual grasp remains amazing, with a memory of past (in his case, at almost 98, VERY past) events that puts the rest of us to shame. He spends a lot of time in bed, and one would have to say there is something fittingly decadent in the way he issue orders from a reclining position - a sort of latter day Augustus, demanding the return, not of lost legions, but of his physical independence.

I don't know what it is about these ex-Commandos: but where mere mortals have to result to pills and potions to keep body and soul together, they rely on the kind of sheer bloody-mindedness that made them such an elite in the first place. Pity that can't be bottled: what a world we would have then.....

Micky was one of very few people to have met personally both Adolf Hitler and Franklin Roosevelt, the former whom he admired at the time (1935) but later realizing what he really stood for, leaving a bitter taste in his mouth for many years.

March 1942 sees Micky on his way to St Nazaire to take part in “The Greatest Raid of All” where he was detailed to secure an area of the town to allow demolitions to be safely carried out. Disaster struck when his ‘little ship’ ML 192 was struck by four large caliber shells causing her to crash ashore nowhere near his intended landing place. Four of the ships company of 17 were killed along with eight of Micky’s 14 man commando group. He was the only commando to make it ashore safely, the rest of his comrades being wounded then captured. He was wounded three times but somehow reached his objective but with only a pistol and no support he could do nothing and shortly after was captured. He spent the remainder of the war in Colditz Castle where he wrankled the senior POW officer W CDR Douglas Bader by preaching Marxist theories to his fellow officers. He also helped with a secret radio utilizing his journalistic skills boosting morale with updated messages on the war’s progress.

Post war he met and married Mary Booker in 1947 and he spent the remainder of his life in Wales with his beloved Mary passing away in 1974.

This following link should take you to a little teaser taken from a documentary being made about Micky to be followed by a movie about his part in Operation Chariot ---

http://www.youtube.com/michaelburnmc

May He Rest in Peace
Joining those other ‘Legends of St Nazaire’ who have preceded him.


Hi Roger,

Thankyou for your posts about Micky Burn. What an interesting/challenging life journey he lived. How amazing to make it to 98 (with all his mental faculties), after all he'd been through.

Regards,

Bee :)
p.s. It would be nice to know if some of our members here had been able to attend his funeral service.

RogerP
24-07-2011, 11:11
OP CHARIOT MOVIE.

I received the following from James Dorrian recently. For those who don't know James, he wrote the very good book "Storming St Nazaire" and also has his own blog on Op Chariot -- http://chariot-heroes.blogspot.com/ I thought I should promote this to a wider audience other than the Fairmile Association here in Oz.

He is very passionate indeed in ensuring the story is told correctly without Hollywood sensationalism which would amount to a load of rubbish possibly. There are very few 'charioteers' left now, only about twenty I think of the original 600+. It is an amazing story that needs to be told and what better way than a movie depicting the true story of what I call "The Legends of St Nazaire".

"I was in London earlier in the week, meeting a young businessman who wants to set up a production company to make a proper, accurate, film about the raid. The key to all this, with Warner Brothers wanting to fictionalise the thing yet again, is to get the veterans and other interested parties on our side, and committed to our approach. Any chance the Fairmile boys in Oz might be wiling to give us the stamp of approval? We can't let the bloody Yanks destroy yet more of our history solely to make money".

For those who wish to get in touch with James, please send me a 'pm' and I will pass on your message to him.